vargoracing

Hope everybody reading this has some time on their hands!. First of all, The first pair of Monocoques that I have and owned for years before the Aerospace brakes change over are 1.3/4" backspacing. The pair I bought off "BUGZY" are 2.3/8" backspacing. Aerospace says for a FOX body car, you must use 2.2/5 bs on a 3.5" rim, and on a 4" rim you must use a 2.7/5" bs. He said "they should work" That is why I bought them. Go a head and look on their web site! As for the "AS IS" sale...That is total "BULL SH*T" That was NEVER EVEN MENTIONED in ANY of our conversations!! Now tell me I'm wrong Bugzy! And has far as a receipt goes...WHO DO YOU WANT ME TO SEND IT TO!!
The day I got them 8/12, I went into my garage, put them on the studs, spun the wheel and heard them scape the caliper. I got so pissed off I shut the light off and went in the house to tell you that I received them without doing any further research. It wasn't until the next day when I had calmed down and went back outside and put lugs on the wheels and spun them again and relized that they had a wobble, and that is when I took them to my local garge. I am sorry for being a day late, dollar short on my information but IF YOU HAD ANSWERED YOUR PHONE!!!!!!!! You would have known what was going on. Tell everyone HOW MANY TIMES I HAVE CALLED YOU WITH NO RESPONSE!! You didn't even answer the phone after you shipped them when I was trying to locate them coming snail mail which to me... You knew something was wrong with these rims.
Bugzy, You never ONCE told me that you bought them and did not like them, that why you are selling them! You even listed the WRONG RIMS when you first posted them!! Why don't you tell the PEOPLE that! As far as POSITIVE FEEDBACK goes... Who do I send my resume to? I am not no punk kid lookin for a fight on here, I just want my money back for this junk that" just needed a polishing" back! I give you credit for comming on this board and defending youself. But it was YOU WHO SHOULD OF KNOWN THEY WERE JUNK BEFORE YOU SOLD THEM AGAIN!!!!

bugzy

To my good friend George. How would I know if the wheels were bent if I never mounted them. I never touch them until I took pics of them. Yes I posted the wrong photo of them on RacingJunk, but we cleared that up way before you bought them. I sent you number of new pics to you, and change the photos on RacingJunk. For are conversations. Why are you such a lier... You know the truth.... Why dont you just man up! You got 2 sets of Monocoques front runners wheels that dont fit you car. Ohwell get over it. To all readers... this is not this guys 1st rodeo he has made complants on more than one seller on RacingJunk. Ask yourself why would he ask me for the other RacingJunk menbers information who was interested in the wheels. I dont know maybe he wants to sell his other rims that are bent?
It seems (vargoracing) is the SCAMMER!
This is my 1st time on here. I didnt even know about the Forum until today... I'm not going to give the money back. Take me to court... I dont care. I've got all of are Messages saved. I am not going back and forth with you George. I dont sit at the computer all day typing complants about good people. I have a life. You should get one too.

vargoracing

Now that you have got that off your chest. I just now realize the POS you are! I have been a member on this site for 6+ years, Screwed TWICE!

Once by -Michael Aviles
Second by - Ron Webb

I must be MAN enough to chalk this up as another internet learning experience!

I am done with this topic.

Thank You Racing Junk

MEMRACING62

INTERESTING RESPONSE :?

Scorpion1110

Umm Bugzy I am pretty sure you were on here before today- this forum. You can see users browsing the forum- I check all the time and I seem to remember you visited before today and after the thread was posted. I was waiting on your response to this thread and was surprised that you didnt post.

Topsportsman1 and Bjuice the two mods could probably confirm that.

Just thought I'd point that out.

Scorp

Tod74

Scorp should be a detective....if I ever get scammed I'm going to him.

ANYWAY NOW for my opinion.
In the first post you said this







Then you changed it a little bit to this

IF you heard them scrape and knew they were not going to work, Why the heck would you go back out the next day and put lug nuts on them and snug them down and spin it again? Also,I am going to assume you will say there were no lug nuts on them the day before when you spun them, to which I ask.. WHO IN THE HELL puts a rim on the rotor and gives it a spin without any lug nuts on? Most people at least start a couple on and run them in because they would never stay flat against the rotor if you didn't....AND IF YOU DID do that, why would you then be pissed at the fact that you heard them rubbing the caliper? That makes no sense at all. You wouldn't get pissed at that point because you wouldn't know for sure they rubbed until the lug nuts were at least finger tight to hold them in place....something don't add up to me...JUST MY OPINION.

lano

(Quote from 1st Post)
I've tried to call and e-mailing him to tell him that the rims were bent and that I would pay the shipping back to him for a full refund in what I had paid him in the first place. I"VE GOTTEN NO RESPONCE!!!!! Now I'm feeling like I have gotten SCREWED!! I am trying to be a gentleman about this but I am loosing my cool every day that goes buy w/no reply. I'ts been a week now and still nothing!! Could use a little help in taking the next step!

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I've read the posts, and "one guy" comes accross as a gentleman, who is trying to resolve a problem, in a gentle way,
AND THE OTHER GUY IS AN A$$HOLE (read his replies), WHO IS ONL;Y INTERESTED
IN KEEPING THE MONEY AND TRYING TO BELITTLE THE GUY HE SCAMMED.

BUGZY,,,,,,, if that was my money you got, i'd say,
HOPE YOU CHOKE ON IT !!!!!!!!!!

volvodoc

Why won't people stand behind the products that they are selling or disclose any known faults with them. If in fact several phone calls were made with no response this should have set off a red flag immediately.
Like the saying goes " buyer beware ". Especially on the internet.

speedfreek

just reading the conversation between bugzy and vargo. I havent seen all the messages between them,and never heard the phone conversations when the deal was made. I have nothing in this matter. but I do know the truth to some extent. I happen to live next door to his parents,he lives about 30 miles away. the wheels were delivered here. I also know for an absolute fact that he never mounted a tire on them nor did he ever attempt to mount them on his car. he removed them from the box they were delivered in and saw they did not match the rear wheels on his car, and he laid them on a shelf and that is where they stayed until he sold them. I took one of them and tried it on my nova, but it didnt match well with the greg weld wheels I had on the back, so I put it back with the other one and he sold them. he knew nothing at all about those wheels except what he was told when bought them. they did need a good cleaning, but that was all I could see wrong with them. everyone has a different opinion of what excellent is.

mytmouz

Whether or not he tried them out, he DID sell them. It IS his fault that they are not what he said they were, regardless. "I didn't know they were stolen officer" doesn't work either... :roll: