gsforless

...I'd agree with that...when he DOES make it right! Don't know the guy,and I'm sure not saying he won't make good on it,BUT...how many times have we ALL heard "check's in the mail"? :roll:

Harbone

I am waiting patiently. We will see and he seems like a nice kid. Just a little scary for being my first trade and all...

ashbros

The last I was about to trade for an engine I was told callies crank, Oliver Rods Etc Popped off oil pan, Stock cranl and cat h beam rods. I never like to purchase an engine from an outside source. Just as stated above, maybe the guy that purchased it prior to you was fed a line of BS as well. Buy the parts and build them yourself. Thats the only way to know what you have in the engine

Harbone

well, still have not recieved my rocker arms that his buddy supposedly removed from the car while it was stored at his house, he's not replying to my emails on RJ or outlook. so if the "checks in the mail" I have not seen it yet...

Harbone

well I quess I was being to easy, after a week of no returned phone calls or messages I feel like I have been duped. I will list on here the messages we traded back and forth. Jake Hammond of Morgantown Kentucky is the person I dealt with on the trade. Car was supposed to have roller rockers but it did not, and he was supposed to ship them to me. Also was told the car was turnkey but it was far from it with no brake fluid in the master cylinder and the left rear wheel cylinder blown out. all light were supposed to be functional but the turn signal switch is busted off in the column and last but not least he never mentioned the car had a salvage/rebuilt title. Shame on me for not fully inspecting the car at the time of the trade but shame on him for not following up on his promise.
read the text from the bottom to the top.







have to ship them out monday.

On [2008-10-04 14:50:33] harbone66 wrote:
> jake,
> I was checking to see if you had shipped the rockers yet?
>
> Chris
>
> On [2008-09-28 19:51:13] Ham10 wrote:
> > i will have them this weekend and will be shipped out, should be there by the end of next week.
> >
> > On [2008-09-28 19:49:57] harbone66 wrote:
> > > Jake,
> > > Whats the status on the rockers?
> > >
> > > Chris
> > > On [2008-09-23 20:36:38] Ham10 wrote:
> > > > do what you please the guy told me everything that was done to the car, i took the value covers off as soon as i got the car and seen the rockers so i took his word for it. if i was trying to crook you do you actually think i would be sending you roller rockers come on man. do think a crook is goin to ask someone to take a pic with them when they switch cars, i think your a good guy easy to work with. im as pissed as you are, shit like that makes me look bad. i could be asking you for a new fuel pump but im not, im sure you didnt know it was getting ready to go out. your roller rockers with be on the way as soon as i get them. Jake
> > > >
> > > > On [2008-09-23 20:28:36] harbone66 wrote:
> > > > > so should I take the intake off and the heads and make sure this engine is what its supposed to be??? I have a serious concern here...
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On [2008-09-23 20:16:21] Ham10 wrote:
> > > > > > he admited to taking them and sold them at a race auction. he is suppose to get me another set. send me your mailing add. and i will send them as soon as he gets them to me. Jake
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On [2008-09-23 19:58:59] harbone66 wrote:
> > > > > > > jake,
> > > > > > > so whats going on ?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Chris
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On [2008-09-21 22:38:41] Ham10 wrote:
> > > > > > > > 10-4!
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On [2008-09-21 22:10:49] harbone66 wrote:
> > > > > > > > > let me know, I am in Chicago the next 2 days at a seminar. If all else fails call me on my cell phone and let me know whats going on.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > On [2008-09-21 21:39:46] Ham10 wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > i've called him several times today and left messages on his phone no returned calls, i've still got a key to his shop so after work tom. im gonna drive over there, if he isn't there im still gonna get into his shop. one way or another i will send you some roller rockers. i dont think he realizes that him not answering his phone makes him suspious. Jake
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > On [2008-09-21 21:15:58] harbone66 wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > Jake,
> > > > > > > > > > > So whats going on with this deal?
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Chris
> > > > > > > > > > > On [2008-09-20 23:38:48] Ham10 wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > no problem i kinda knew it was getting ready to go, it was an easy fix though.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > On [2008-09-20 23:37:11] harbone66 wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > I apologize for the pump, it ran fine on august 24th when i raced it last and fired right up when i put it on the trailer last nite. I drained all the alcohol out after the last race but that crap is volitale and just eats away at everything. let me know whats goin on. oh yeah, the master cylinder was almost bone dry, front resevoir empty, rear at the bottom...
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > On [2008-09-20 23:17:35] Ham10 wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > i tried calling him a few minutes ago but no answer, usually he answers its kinda funny he knew i traded today and isn't answering his phone, im gonna get to the bottom of it, trust me it pisses me off. i'll get you some rockers, oh and by the the fuel pump crashed but i had an extra in the shop so it wasn't no big deal. i will let you know something tom. Jake
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > On [2008-09-20 21:06:15] harbone66 wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jake,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ok, I wish you would have said something about the title being salvaged and that kinda spooked me. Then when I pulled the valve covers off I was really gettin worried. I have faith that you will stick to your word. Yes, I am a believer in kharma too. let me know. I will gladly send you a pic as confirmation if you like but they are just steel rockers...
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Chris
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On [2008-09-20 20:28:11] Ham10 wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There is now way! I pulled the value covers off when i first got the car and there were roller rockers, the only possible way is if my so called BUDDY!! took them, the car had been sitting at his shop for about a week and a half. give me till tom. and i will find out, i'm a true believer if you do someone wrong it will come back to you!!! i will send you a set of roller rockers as soon as i find out what happened to them. Jake
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On [2008-09-20 19:12:48] harbone66 wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jake,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > OK. In your listing you say it has roller cam and roller rockers. I pulled the valve covers and all it has its stock stamped steel rockers and stock pushrods! I am starting to get the feeling I was scammed!

tommysears

roller cam with stock puhrods and rocker arms?? yeah ,right.

Harbone

so after being pissed already I decided to take the top end of the motor down, quess what, no roller cam, no 12:1 pistons!
heres the original ad#1315769
the original description was this:
WHAT YOU ARE LOOKING AT IS A 79 PROSTREET MALIBU. THE CAR IS STREET LEGAL, CAR HAS TITLE, ALL LIGHTS WORK, ITS HAS A 6IN GLASS HOOD, NICE INTERIOR WITH BUCKET SEATS W/ 5 POINT HARNESSES, ALUMINIUM DASH WITH ALL THE GAUGES AND SWITCHES, UNDER THE HOOD ITS A 355 ROLLER MOTOR, 202 HEADS, TEAM G ALUMINUM INTAKE, IT HAS A HOLLEY 750CFM DOUBLE PUMPER, 12:1 PISTONS, .610 LIFT SOLID ROLLER CAM, ROLLER ROCKERS, 250 SHOT OF NITROUS NEVER BEEN SPRAYED, HI CAP RADIATOR, HOOKER SUPER COMP HEADERS, 5 GAL FUEL CELL, THE REAR IS A NARROWED FORD 9IN, 4;11 PRO GEARS, MOSER AXLES, WITH 29X18.5X15 SPORTSMAN PRO TIRES. CAR ALSO HAS LINE LOCK, B&M RATCHET SHIFTER, MSD PRO BILLET DISTRIBUTER, DISC BRAKES. THANKS FOR LOOKING AND HAVE A GREAT DAY. I WILL RESPOND TO ALL MESSAGES

needless to say I got used. I have bought 2 cars off here but this was my first trade, lesson learned...

Harbone

so does anyone have any ideas on a recourse? He has my car listed that I traded him here on racing junk. He wont answer his phone or respond to messages or emails. I understand that he was going by what he was told was in the motor but he had promised to at least send me roller rockers.

gsforless

Just my opinion,but if he won't answer phone or emails,he looks guilty of more than just trading you a car without knowing what was inside the engine.....maybe he knew exactly what was(or was not)inside that engine...

Glen

lively

COULD BE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!