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Old 06-19-2011, 07:39 PM
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Just to remind everyone:
The car was picked up in late oct fresh motor and winterized, I specifically asked if it had water or coolant, Mike said coolant. I told him the car would be parked in an unheated garage next to another chevelle. If you read the thread you would have read that. Upon pick up from the shop in Oct the car went around the block at his shop threw the belts, mike rebushed the alt and they seemed to hold , the car got put on the trailer and put in the unheated garage. In case I was not clear earlier. I did check the radiator LEVEL, when I put the car in the garage in Oct because it had thrown the belt, no I did not check the specific gravity or the proper ratio or quality of the coolant, it certainly looked like coolant. It had coolant in it in Oct, as it did when I fired it up the first time in june, I also checked it then, so the radiator had coolant or a fluid that looked like coolant to me.Slightly low but not even enought to add untill I drove it than I would check it. I bumped the motor thru out the winter to change the spring tension on the valve train, but never started it till june. Just to make it clear, YES THE LEVEL WAS CHECKED BOTH IN OCT AND JUNE,NOT THE QUALITY OR PROPER RATIO . and I DID A VISUAL CHECK UNDER THE CAR TO CHECK FOR LEAKS. NO SIGNS OF ANY LEAKS
Mark the car is a street car that goes to the track a dozen times a year,Mike is very aware of that. With the motor build and installed and picked up in Oct, after being delayed for 4 weeks, I told Mike that I was not sure if the car was going to the track in 2010, that is why we specifically talked about coolant. Mike said "IT HAS COOLANT"

If I did not make that part clear, I hope it is now.
So if your comment :You mean to tell us that you didn't think it were your RESPONSIBILTY to check the coolant before winter .

Yes: level checked not quality. And as far as the warranty I need honesty, I need to be told the truth, and the coolant in this case seems to be an issue and also now I have hard evidence that at least some of internal components in the motor were not as represented.
Also as far as that dig about my racing time and skill set, I will let that slide. Obviously I know enought to get into trouble. Honest this build was just too damn new to even think it would have any issues, and
I DID A VISUAL CAR INSPECTION AND A COOLANT LEVEL INSPECTION
Also, had I been told that there was water in the motor, I would have probably responded with "why" yapped about the paying a boat load of money for a street car motor that did have coolant and than I would have "winterized" it myself when I got it home. ITS THAT SIMPLE, I NEED THE CORRECT INFORMATION Thats the warranty/honesty ?
Come on, you think I wanted this to happen ?

I am always open to questions and valid critism, we all learn from that,
But I still feel that I based my actions on the info that I was given, and I did do things properly. If I was lied too or something was miscommunicated to me and I was not told the truth, than all bets are off.
In conclusion: Yes it is my job to check things out, which I did... I did a "informal check out list" with Mike when I picked up the car, that I use and go over when I have something build and I am picking it up. Could be a trans, a motor, what ever, it is a piece of paper that I use to write down settings, important info that I may need to maintain the set up, dyno numbers, why it hazed the tires, valve adjustments, NOS questions, etc, and on that sheet I asked about the coolant question.
So the only thing I did wrong "was take a mans word as being truthful"
Jeff 708-308-0282

And mem:
did you tell the guy you built the motor for it had coolant or it had water, if you told him coolant and it had water SHAME ON YOU, IF YOU TOLD HIM IT HAD WATER THAN SHAME ON HIM ?
So yup that sums it up
A very bitter pill to swallow and it will not happen again
And this is not even close to being over, I am getting more info about the build.
Again I got no other problems with high speed and Mike, except this issue. And I am not sure how but it will be worked out.
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