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This is easy, the scammer forum has been hijacked by ghustler. I am tired of it , are you?
Never thought I would post something like this up but its past due. :D

My apologies in advanced to the Mods, lock the thread if you feel fit.
:D

We've seen plenty of guys come in here with attitudes and not stay long.
The thing a lot of guys don't get is you can dissagree all day long about something, but you don't have to be a smart azz about it / take it personal or get into a pissng match with somebody because they don't agree with you.
Plenty of things we "the clique" don't agree on, but we still get along.
I've also said it before, I visit several other forums and none come close to what we " the regulars" have on this one.

When you really start thinking about what all we've been through over the years it's a lot of history. Some good, some bad and some sad!

He might say some stuff that certain people may disagree with. But it is a free country we live in and he isn't harming anyone. Anyone is welcome to voice their opinion,as long as they are willing to listen to everyone else's as well.

Harbone & ghustler,that is just how i feel about the issue-regardless of the individual in question-do not take my response as a personal response to you. Like I said,I value everyones opinion, some I may disagree with strongly. As long as it's a level playing field than it's all good.

Note: Definitely don't take this personal,and i do not expect anyone to follow suit. I was raised to not do anything in secret. If you believe in it,stand up for it. I have always hated secret ballots. But that is just me.For what it's worth i voted "Stay". Sorry,dont mean to be rude,dang upbringing working on me

I should have added in my post. I don't think he should go away nor do I think he has to agree with everybody, but no need for the personal attacks on others.

Everybody knows I'm way out in left field sometimes and don't always agree with the majority on things, but still get along and have meaningful post to add to a subject.

Nothing secret about this ballot, its all out in the open...

Alright. Fair enough. My vote: Take a HIKE Patsy. You disrupt a great forum. As a man, I see this like firing a bad employee. As a spiritual man, I see you as counter-productive to others who might have an open mind about things like God. You insult good people you don't even know. Then you turn around & say you are "not here to make friends"... you already know everything there is know about cars... so what are you doing here?????? Seriously... I don't think you are humble enough to respect yourself. TAKE A HIKE...

I see rigsby has learned a new word and is trying to figure out how to use it in a sentence, nice!
Hardbone66, you are a trouble maker, I wouldn't leave here voluntarily and let you have free reign for nothing.
But anytime the the mods want to do me a favor and ban me thats fine because like I said once your competition is gone you all will eat yourselves.
I am flattered you see me as such a ripple in your fairy tale existence on this forum that you create a poll about me!
To the rest of you, if you like following the "mean girls club" and let them speak for you on all issues please vote me off the island and get back in line behind your online bosses they will tell you what to say next.

Looks like a teenagers Facebook page! The need to agree to disagree seems appropriate. If you have a personal attack you want to air out. Do it to their face no MAN does it behind a keyboard..Verbal digs and insults that are posted to attempt and cause someone emotional harm are juvenial and have no place on a forumn. Seems some just cant live without conflict in their lives. Just my 2 cents.

how can you expect to come on any public forum acting like a 6'2"... 210 pound vagina and think its ok....? it obvious mommy and daddy didnt whoop your ass enough growing up and failed at their job of raising you right. everyone in here comes from all diff walks of life and were all here to help one another with different car related issues and any other topics our brothers and sisters need help with. if the only thing you can contribute is you negative attitude then please do us all a favor and just quit posting. your not the first tard we had here and wont be the last either im sure.... but whats sad is you guys usually end up being some pimply face kid or some broke... out of shape... grown ass man... mad at the world and jealous about what you dont got! just my 2 cents and please feel free to try and hurt my feelings cause i got big shoulder and wipe my own ass...... i can take it :wink:

Civility is the issue here. We all have different opinions and have many times agreed to disagree. I invited a person from another forum over to tell his story about a problem seller and ghustler tells him that he deserved to be ripped off because of his personal choice of sidepipes on a Camaro?
Then you say we shouldnt be calling in people that have been accused of ripping someone off? Do you know how many times we have done that to find out the original poster wasnt telling the whole story?
What you dont understand ghustler is if you do go away, we are not going to eat each other. I have some good friends on here, guys that have helped me out and I have helped them out. Some of us have been around for years.

If you spend any time on forums across the web including SI, CNN etc., you will see an abundance of trolls. These people say obnoxious things because they can hide behind their computer. These are things they would not say to a person face to face.

Real interaction with humans moderates behavior. Hidden interaction fosters poor behavior; and ultimately drives other users away and burys the topic.

I think its fully appropriate for the Moderators to moderate these forums and require that users behave in a certain manner.

Repetitive obnoxious behavior can absolutely warrant a warning from the Mods, and failure to adhere to the guidelines can certainly and appropriately lead to lack of use.

Ghustler, you are here to provoke. You enjoy it, and I wouldnt be suprised if you have been here before under a different name.

Ban him? I dont really care about him so I will defer to you guys.

Scorp

One thing is constant & factual. Patsy likes to make trouble & provoke... which is counter productive to what this forum is about. He has given ZERO to the good people here. I will be the first to say that I allow myself to get to involved with arguing against his belligerent babbling. But I will NOT tolerate people talking about my friends this way, disrespecting God, etc... & insults about how people deserve to get ripped off. He is arrogant, ignorant, self-righteous, insulting & disruptive. I was raised to STAND UP for what is right. STICK UP for your friends, & be TRUE to your word. If that is wrong, then we are all in the wrong forum people. It is no different than TOLERATING a BAD politician or employee... take a HIKE Patsy. He has NOTHING to contribute to ANYONE. If there is a problem, dispose the problem. Simple.

I hate to see stuff like this on this forum! I will say this that the one thing I have learned in life that when it comes to a man or womens restored car or work in progress its best to keep your comments to urself. Reason I say that is no matter what kind of car or truck it may be the person thats putting the heart, blood, and soul into that project deserves all the credit one can get. Everyone has a favorite ride whether its a Camaro, Chevelle, Mustang, Cuda, Pinto, Pacer or whatever but a person that has a passion for their certain car deserve credit where credit is due! I have had people come to my shop and slam my impala to my face ranting I destroyed a car, but I learned its not about what they want its what I want that car to be. My motto has always been Built by me for me... Even when a person buys something that has nothing wrong with it a person will change little things that make their own. So in my eyes even if its a car you would never think about building keep in mind that person put the same blood and sweat that all of us put into our rides... So dont bash them, but give them the credit they deserve! Just my 2 cents!

That was put perfectly. So true... blood, sweat & financial tears. Mocking other people & their hard work is just lame.

This is absolutely right! hardbone66 bow out now and take your girlfriend Pasty Ringtoss with you!

I'm not going anywhere, will still be here long after you are gone... :lol:

Beleive me, I'll make it a point to stick around to keep you company!

oh joy...

Sooo what do you want to talk about?????

What kind of car do you have? Are you working on any vehicle related projects? Do you do any racing of any sort? Do you need any advice on anything you are working on? We'd be glad to help.

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very well said olds48, i do not agree with ghustler on many things but this is a public forum for better or worse, nobody owns it, got something to say, this is the place....good or bad. better to be civil and no name calling and stay on the point. I voted for him to stay.

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Again, very well said to both of you. I too may not agree with ghustler's tactics, but he's fighting the "RJ Thugs" and they "DO" think they own this forum! When ever someone says anything "they" don't agree with, the hit team forms and like a pack of wolves, they try to chew you apart, and hope you'll go away so they can just play with each other. If you go back and read some of their postings, you will see that they are just a bunch of mud slinging, name calling, badgering hypocrites.
Watch what happens after Nancy Drew and her Hardy Boys read this posting. They'll be after me like stink on sh!t. First they will call me a whinner (you guys are so clever with words!). That's their favorite phrase. Then they will say some crap about how they're right and I'm wrong, and how I must have something to hide, and I'm just like all the other's they don't like on this forum, and blah, blah, blah...
It's alway the same BS. You guys need to grow up and like eveyone says, keep on the topic and quit going off on some tangent about how your opinon is what everyone should agree on.
So sit back ghustler and take a break. I guess its my turn for the "RJ Thugs" to turn their attention to me.
Oh yea! There's one more thing:
I voted for ghustler to stay. (There's some more ammunition for the thugs to use against me! And they will!)

exactly
missed you bobr... :D

bobr...dont flatter yourself.....your not worth the time to flame on. :P :lol: :P troll on!!

I understand this is a forum for peoples opinions. If you agree with me or not it doesn't matter to me just contribute something positive to the discussion at hand and from what I've seen so far ghustler has not. He always sides with known and proven crooks and to me that either makes him a crook or he is just trying to agitate people. When I look at all of his posts to make an unbiased opinion to stay or go I can't find the first thing positive that he has contributed to any situation. If a total outsider read over all these posts the only conclusion they could reach would be ghustler seems to inflame every situation. This is just my opinion and if you don't agree then so be it.

So your saying Gragham69 is a crook and I defended him?
Or streetrodder37 as I listed what he has for sale so people could see if one of those vehicles was involved in a scam?
Yea I see your point, you only want to stir crap without any proof.
Your just mad because you sent some of your incompetent friends to pick up a car and when you got it you weren't happy with it and thats the only side of the story you want people to see, yet you traded a Camaro for it that had hidden problems you failed to tell the guy you were trading with.
If you insist I will list the 55s problems verses the Camaro's problems and we will see the trade off difference.
Im not defending the other guy you all call a crook but only telling the two sides of the story you don't anyone to know about so you can sway the opinion your way.
Why don't you just man up and let it go, your not getting the Camaro back and your stuck with the junk 55 "you pursued" to trade for in the first place?

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Good to see you Bob... missed having you around. Tell that chip on your shoulder 'hello" for me too.

Thanks Scooter, I needed a laugh.

Scorp

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If you look at all the posts on this topic and read the messages sent from Jason to me there wasn't anything mentioned about any problems with the Camaro until later on down the line and I thought I had addressed them individually for you. He messaged how happy he was with the Camaro and I told him how disappointed I was with the 55 so that should tell you something. I didn't know his rep so now that all the facts are out you've made your decision to side with a known scammer and made known about a whole lot of things of how you would deal with people so I don't think you or people with the same mindset should be allowed to deal on the computer because your a bad transaction waiting to happen.

He didn't cry about everything wrong with the camaro because he fixed it all and moved on.
I think people can see to never trade with you because the next day you will have traders remorse and want to trade back or you will bad mouth them as you did so far.
I myself have had all good deals with people because I know how to deal with people and treat them right.

"I myself have had all good deals with people because I know how"... blah blah blah blah....

Weren't you on here complianing about how you got ripped off by "Bruce Alverez" on E-Bay not too long ago????? Yep, you sure know how to deal with people Patsy.... ya could have looked here & seen that he ripped off others here too... but I bet you already know that too. LOL.

He finally paid and bought some more stuff after that,thats why I let it go and didn't keep digging it up like you do.

but--YOU WERE HERE COMPLAINING ABOUT THAT DEAL 8)

BUT-THIS OTHER MAN DOING THE SAME AS YOU HAS TO BE COMPLETELY WRONG???? :oops:

SHAME ON YOU GHUSTLER :cry: :cry:

WOW---those big words----DO AS GHUSTLER SAYS -NOT AS I DO!!! :shock: :?