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jake58 12-07-2010 08:21 AM

SCAMMER RONS TERMINATOR
 
RONS . TERMINATOR add number 2032803 his name is berettagt. Ipayed him for the rons with a telegraphic transfer into his wifes account when he received the money he said he would send the part and a tracking number.
I havn't received anything from him and its been a month now so i think i've
been ripped off.He won't answer his phone won't call back doesn't answer emails. Does anybody know anyway i can chase it up any help would be appreciated. Thanks

mopar1968 12-07-2010 08:28 AM

You sent a wire transfer of money to his wife's account :?: Sorry but that is the oldest con in the book :!: I sent him a message let's see if he respond's :!: JMO Mark

bigray 12-07-2010 01:18 PM

WOW,, and WOW again,,,Ipayed him for the rons with a telegraphic transfer into his wifes account ,, WOW.. i am speechless that there is still people on this planet that fall for this same old scamm,,

Incognegro 12-08-2010 08:14 AM

Here is his profile.

http://www.racingjunk.com/profile/145127

Notice that there is no profile picture( Mopar1968):wink: and he has very limited information. He tried to friend request me, I did not approve.

Sounds like you got scammed, I would go to your local police file a report, and a lot of times (depending on the amount of money or number of complaint volume) The FBI will have jurisdiction over thefts using wire transfers.

jake58 12-08-2010 10:13 PM

scammer rons terminator
 
julianthe3rd You are right and i have contacted his local law enforcement, they are going to see him and see if he will put things right if not its the FBI that can deal with it and him and his wife can do some jail time for wire fraud and i hope they enjoy it.

Incognegro 12-09-2010 06:31 AM

Re: scammer rons terminator
 

Originally Posted by jake58
julianthe3rd You are right and i have contacted his local law enforcement, they are going to see him and see if he will put things right if not its the FBI that can deal with it and him and his wife can do some jail time for wire fraud and i hope they enjoy it.

FYI, dont have too much faith in your local law enforcement doing much. FWIW Im a cop and was scammed out of $6500 with a stolen CC when I had my shop. I actually worked with the NYPD's detectives brother who had the case, and still the D.A. would not move forward with the case cause it was only $6500....You believe that crap??

TheRabbit 12-09-2010 06:40 AM

Re: scammer rons terminator
 

Originally Posted by Julianthe3rd

Originally Posted by jake58
julianthe3rd You are right and i have contacted his local law enforcement, they are going to see him and see if he will put things right if not its the FBI that can deal with it and him and his wife can do some jail time for wire fraud and i hope they enjoy it.

FYI, dont have too much faith in your local law enforcement doing much. FWIW Im a cop and was scammed out of $6500 with a stolen CC when I had my shop. I actually worked with the NYPD's detectives brother who had the case, and still the D.A. would not move forward with the case cause it was only $6500....You believe that crap??

Is that why you moved to Africa?

Incognegro 12-09-2010 06:42 AM

Re: scammer rons terminator
 

Originally Posted by TheRabbit

Originally Posted by Julianthe3rd

Originally Posted by jake58
julianthe3rd You are right and i have contacted his local law enforcement, they are going to see him and see if he will put things right if not its the FBI that can deal with it and him and his wife can do some jail time for wire fraud and i hope they enjoy it.

FYI, dont have too much faith in your local law enforcement doing much. FWIW Im a cop and was scammed out of $6500 with a stolen CC when I had my shop. I actually worked with the NYPD's detectives brother who had the case, and still the D.A. would not move forward with the case cause it was only $6500....You believe that crap??

Is that why you moved to Africa?

We got a Nigerian president, I just as soon figured we were in Africa already.

jake58 12-09-2010 12:48 PM

SCAMMER RONS TERMINATOR
 
NOTE the scammer has changed the price in the add.

gungho 12-09-2010 01:23 PM

With 208 friends he must be a great guy,this cant be true,not with 208 friends.

Incognegro 12-09-2010 02:14 PM

I sent him a message asking if it was available. No reply.

BEAST477 12-09-2010 05:04 PM


Originally Posted by Julianthe3rd
I sent him a message asking if it was available. No reply.

I sent him a message a couple days ago to see if he still had it. No reply.

jake58 12-09-2010 11:30 PM

SCAMMER RONS TERMINATOR
 
he is very good at not answering phones and messages

mopar1968 12-10-2010 07:35 AM

Here is his response to me :

From: BerettaGT To: mopar1968 Date: 2010-12-10 11:28:36
Subject: Re: RONS TERMINATOR FUEL INJECTION SYSTEM
Re: Ad #2032803 - RONS TERMINATOR FUEL INJECTION SYSTEM



On [2010-12-09 22:58:48] mopar1968 wrote:
> Do you stil have this for sale? I am switching from carb to injection.
yes one guy sent a deposit and didnt keep his end up

Incognegro 12-10-2010 07:47 AM


Originally Posted by mopar1968
Here is his response to me :

From: BerettaGT To: mopar1968 Date: 2010-12-10 11:28:36
Subject: Re: RONS TERMINATOR FUEL INJECTION SYSTEM
Re: Ad #2032803 - RONS TERMINATOR FUEL INJECTION SYSTEM



On [2010-12-09 22:58:48] mopar1968 wrote:
> Do you stil have this for sale? I am switching from carb to injection.
yes one guy sent a deposit and didnt keep his end up

I got this from him.

From: BerettaGT To: Julianthe3rd Date: 2010-12-10 11:31:41
Subject: Re: RONS TERMINATOR FUEL INJECTION SYSTEM
Re: Ad #2032803 - RONS TERMINATOR FUEL INJECTION SYSTEM



On [2010-12-08 12:15:40] Julianthe3rd wrote:
> I would like to purchase it, will you take $1600??
1645 shipped

BerettaGT 12-10-2010 07:49 AM

RONS TERMINATOR NOT A SCAM BUYER DIDNT PAY ALL MONEY
 
JUST TO SET RECORD STRAIGHT HE SENT ME A DEPOSIT AND IN 2 WEEKS WOULD SEND REST I WAITED 3 WEEKS AND NO MONEY I TALKED TO SHERIFF HE SAID THIS WAS A VERBLE AGREEMENT AND IF HE OWED MONEY ON PART AND BROKE AGREEMENT THERES NOTHING CAN B DONE. THIS IS JUST A BROKE ASS RACER TRYING TO RACE ON A WELLFARE BUDGET HES TRYING TO SCAM ME AND IM NOT GIVING MY PARTS AWAY THEY WERNT GIVE TO ME IVE GOT 2548 IN THES PARTS[/b]

Harbone 12-10-2010 07:51 AM

Re: RONS TERMINATOR NOT A SCAM BUYER DIDNT PAY ALL MONEY
 

Originally Posted by BerettaGT
JUST TO SET RECORD STRAIGHT HE SENT ME A DEPOSIT AND IN 2 WEEKS WOULD SEND REST I WAITED 3 WEEKS AND NO MONEY I TALKED TO SHERIFF HE SAID THIS WAS A VERBLE AGREEMENT AND IF HE OWED MONEY ON PART AND BROKE AGREEMENT THERES NOTHING CAN B DONE. THIS IS JUST A BROKE ASS RACER TRYING TO RACE ON A WELLFARE BUDGET HES TRYING TO SCAM ME AND IM NOT GIVING MY PARTS AWAY THEY WERNT GIVE TO ME IVE GOT 2548 IN THES PARTS[/b]

So, has he paid the full amount??

Incognegro 12-10-2010 07:53 AM

Re: RONS TERMINATOR NOT A SCAM BUYER DIDNT PAY ALL MONEY
 

Originally Posted by BerettaGT
JUST TO SET RECORD STRAIGHT HE SENT ME A DEPOSIT AND IN 2 WEEKS WOULD SEND REST I WAITED 3 WEEKS AND NO MONEY I TALKED TO SHERIFF HE SAID THIS WAS A VERBLE AGREEMENT AND IF HE OWED MONEY ON PART AND BROKE AGREEMENT THERES NOTHING CAN B DONE. THIS IS JUST A BROKE ASS RACER TRYING TO RACE ON A WELLFARE BUDGET HES TRYING TO SCAM ME AND IM NOT GIVING MY PARTS AWAY THEY WERNT GIVE TO ME IVE GOT 2548 IN THES PARTS[/b]

So your keeping his deposit? How much of a deposit did he send? Have you contacted him in the meantime? Have you answered his calls? And just an FYI, Police or Sheriff's dont get involved in civil matters and give advice, so thats bull$hit pal.

mopar1968 12-10-2010 08:10 AM

Here is the 2nd one i just got :

From: BerettaGT To: mopar1968 Date: 2010-12-10 12:04:20
Subject: Re: RONS TERMINATOR FUEL INJECTION SYSTEM
Re: Ad #2032803 - RONS TERMINATOR FUEL INJECTION SYSTEM

AS OF YESTERDAY BY THE WAY I DONT WONT TO BE YOUR FREIND EITHER AND IF JAKE WHATEVEVER WOULD HAVE SENT ME ALL MY MONEY IT WOULDNT B 4 SALE SO YALL QUIT TIRE KICKING

On [2010-12-10 11:33:07] mopar1968 wrote:
> So it is still for sale


I am crushed he doesn't want to be my friend :!: I am going to need counseling because of this :!: :!: :roll:

Incognegro 12-10-2010 08:24 AM

Just an FYI take it for what its worth. Keeping someone deposit is illegal unless he signed or entered a contract where he was clearly informed and agreed it was non refundable. What your doing is theft.

BEAST477 12-10-2010 08:38 AM


Originally Posted by mopar1968
Here is the 2nd one i just got :

From: BerettaGT To: mopar1968 Date: 2010-12-10 12:04:20
Subject: Re: RONS TERMINATOR FUEL INJECTION SYSTEM
Re: Ad #2032803 - RONS TERMINATOR FUEL INJECTION SYSTEM

AS OF YESTERDAY BY THE WAY I DONT WONT TO BE YOUR FREIND EITHER AND IF JAKE WHATEVEVER WOULD HAVE SENT ME ALL MY MONEY IT WOULDNT B 4 SALE SO YALL QUIT TIRE KICKING

On [2010-12-10 11:33:07] mopar1968 wrote:
> So it is still for sale


I am crushed he doesn't want to be my friend :!: I am going to need counseling because of this :!: :!: :roll:


Hey Mark, we will be meeting in North Carolina soon maybe all that come can get some counseling. :lol: Talk to you soon.

mopar1968 12-10-2010 08:51 AM

I will be there :!:

Incognegro 12-10-2010 08:58 AM


Originally Posted by mopar1968
I will be there :!:

If you need a shoulder to cry on I'm here for you. Anyone who keeps a deposit on someone is a real scuba in my book. Shows the level of integrity of that person.

curtisreed 12-10-2010 11:45 AM


Originally Posted by Julianthe3rd

Originally Posted by mopar1968
I will be there :!:

If you need a shoulder to cry on I'm here for you. Anyone who keeps a deposit on someone is a real scuba in my book. Shows the level of integrity of that person.

I've been watching this out of curiousity and the OP never said whether he sent the full amount or not. If not what is his level of integrity? Not trying to stir the pot just throwing that out. I think if a deposit is to be sent back to the buyer then some of it should be kept for time / trouble and or missed sales.

I worry a lot about the things I buy off of RJ and I have been lucky and never been scammed. I feel for those who have. I also feel for those who have been dragged through the mud unjustly. Sometimes the truth is in the middle and if the seller doesn't know someone has accused them on the forum they can appear guilty when they are not.

Again just wondering where the middle line of truth is.

Curtis

BEAST477 12-10-2010 03:24 PM

Well put Curtis, And where has jake58 gone to? Jake tell us the price you two agreed on and how much you sent. And can you prove it? A reciept of some kind on the wire transfer. Sure did get quiet all of a sudden.

Incognegro 12-10-2010 03:37 PM


Originally Posted by doorracer

Originally Posted by Julianthe3rd

Originally Posted by mopar1968
I will be there :!:

If you need a shoulder to cry on I'm here for you. Anyone who keeps a deposit on someone is a real scuba in my book. Shows the level of integrity of that person.

I've been watching this out of curiousity and the OP never said whether he sent the full amount or not. If not what is his level of integrity? Not trying to stir the pot just throwing that out. I think if a deposit is to be sent back to the buyer then some of it should be kept for time / trouble and or missed sales.

I worry a lot about the things I buy off of RJ and I have been lucky and never been scammed. I feel for those who have. I also feel for those who have been dragged through the mud unjustly. Sometimes the truth is in the middle and if the seller doesn't know someone has accused them on the forum they can appear guilty when they are not.

Again just wondering where the middle line of truth is.

Curtis


That is true. There is always 3 sides to a story: Side (A) , side (B) and what REALLY happened.

dragonmaster093 12-10-2010 08:09 PM

beast if ya dont mind ill tag along with mark heck if i sale a car on contract it reads like this
i sam wood sell _____ a ___________ on the following terms. A. _____ down with payments every____ and if more then 1 payment is missed i reserve the right to repo said vehicle. and any and all moneys are forefieted by the said buyer.


both parties sign and if not no deal. if i know you you might get to take it home if not it sits and i keep title and on last payment i sign over. i did this to a friend i knew for almost 20 yrs but he understood my point
as they say on pawn stars its not that i dont trust you i just dont trust anyone

BEAST477 12-11-2010 02:51 AM

No problem Sam, you are more than welcome.

Hey BerettaGT have you been in contact with jake58? I think both of you are BAD at business. Not keeping in contact, not holding up your end in the deal made(both of you are guilty). I say you two work it out the best you can and good luck.

jake58 12-11-2010 05:10 PM

scammer rons terminator
 
I have been away for 2 days is why no posts.I sent the scammer $1460.00 for parts and freight.In the add the price was $1400.00 buyer pays shipping, shipping was $60.00 i sent$1460.00 The scammer changed the price on the 12/08/10 call racing junk and they will tell you that he changed the add then, the price now is $1850.00.He had 2 adds at the same time 1 add had price at $1450.00 he pays shipping I have a email from racingjunk of his add before he changed the price.Ihave tried to call this guy over 20 times he doesnt answer when i call and i sent him an emal through racingjunk that he wouldnt answer. Ihave a receipt of wire transfer.

Incognegro 12-11-2010 05:12 PM

Re: scammer rons terminator
 

Originally Posted by jake58
I have been away for 2 days is why no posts.I sent the scammer $1460.00 for parts and freight.In the add the price was $1400.00 buyer pays shipping, shipping was $60.00 i sent$1460.00 The scammer changed the price on the 12/08/10 call racing junk and they will tell you that he changed the add then, the price now is $1850.00.He had 2 adds at the same time 1 add had price at $1450.00 he pays shipping I have a email from racingjunk of his add before he changed the price.Ihave tried to call this guy over 20 times he doesnt answer when i call and i sent him an emal through racingjunk that he wouldnt answer. Ihave a receipt of wire transfer.

Post up the emails then. Sounds like a shady deal to me.

mopar1968 12-11-2010 05:13 PM

We would like to see E-mail's and possibably orginal ad. I am sure RJ can help with this :!: :!: JMO Mark

BEAST477 12-11-2010 05:42 PM

Well Berettagt, how many ads and how many prices? jake58 if you can post up the emails and the ad you purchased from showing the price you stated that would look bad for him.

jake58 12-11-2010 06:03 PM

SCAMMER RONS TERMINATOR
 
This is the add with price at $1450.00 before he changed price on12/08/10
other email will post shortly

Here is the information on ad number 2030087:


RONS TERMINATOR FUEL INJECTION
COMPLETE MECHANICAL FUEL INJECTION SYSTEM
Ad #2030087 Posted:2010-11-01 17:29:07
This ad expires in 44 days.
$1,450.00



I HAVE A RONS TERMINATOR COMPLETE FROM SPARE INJECTOR PILLS TO RONS LEAK DOWN TESTER 1455CFM 4500 FLANGE BLACK GEAR ROTOR PUMP 0 1\2.


Seller Phone Number: 334 657 1268
This item is USED
Trades NOT ACCEPTED
Payment options:

WIRE TRANSFER
Item Location: GREENVILLE, AL Get Directions To This City
Instructions for buyer: PRICE INCLUDES SHIPPING


This ad expires in 44 days.

jake58 12-11-2010 06:09 PM

SCAMMER RONS TERMINATOR
 
From: jake58 To: BerettaGT Date: 2010-12-02 23:17:58
Subject: RONS TERMINATOR FUEL INJECTION SYSTEM
Re: Ad #2032803 - RONS TERMINATOR FUEL INJECTION SYSTEM

Mike, on the 8/11/2010 i depoisted $1460.00 usd in your wife's bank account at your instruction to pay for a ron's terminator injection ad. number 2032803 and freight. I spoke to you on the phone and you stated that you had received the money and you would then send the injection system and that you would call me and give me the tracking number.To date you havn't sent that tracking number and i havn't received the goods i have tried to call you about 15 times but you don't answer the phone nor do you call me back.I think i have given you ample time to send the tracking number and the item. I am sending you this message in an attempt to make contact with you to sort this problem out. If you havn't contacted me by monday the 06/12/2010 i will contact racingjunk and your local police to try and sort it out. Please call as soon as possible you have my number. Thanks

jake58 12-11-2010 06:18 PM

SCAMMER RONS TERMINATOR
 
You will notice that dates appear with day before month because we do it that way in Australia

THERATTLER 12-11-2010 07:25 PM

you are right about the two adds and two different prices..here they are for all to see..

http://www.racingjunk.com/category/9...INJECTION.html

http://www.racingjunk.com/category/0...ON-SYSTEM.html

mopar1968 12-11-2010 07:48 PM

Guy's i know this has been said many time's , But it look's like R.J could step in on something like this where someone prove's he/she has paid for good's and doesn't recieve them. It just doesn't make sence for this to happen over and over again. The guy has proven two ad's with two different price's. If it were me and i lost that kind of money i would be on a plane with bond money in my pocket :!: :!: JMO Mark

Incognegro 12-11-2010 08:23 PM

Well that about settles it, Sounds like you got scammed my friend. If it were me I would post up all of this guys personal info possible, name,address,email,phone,bank account number, just for all to see.

zipper06 12-12-2010 08:20 AM

The $1450.00 price was posted 7 min. after the $1850.00 price with all the pics.
Something smells here.

JMO

Zip.

Tod74 12-12-2010 11:20 AM

I messaged him the day this thread started.I haven't been back on until today. Here is his answer.


On [2010-12-07 19:29:41] Tod74 wrote:
> You are being called a scammer in the forum. two guys say you sold them this set up. Might want to tell your side.


havent sold to any one one guy sent me a deposit and was suppose to send the rest in one week or his deposit was lost they can call me what they wont i cant help a bunch of broke ass folks try to race with a wellfare budget thanks


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