Scammers?
 

So I surf the RJ pages a lot looking for things within a 200 mile radius of my home. I keep hitting these 4 different people that run the same "vague" ads out of the Chicago area. Most of the time its a Camaro, theres always a fuzzy picture of a car that looks like it was shot with a cell phone at a car show, the ads almost always say the car is tubbed but you can tell by the pic its not, the price is usually some outragious number or ridiculously cheap, I have sent emails within an hour of a new listing asking if I can see the car and either never get a response or get one back saying a deposit has already been made. Here are the 4 users and their ad numbers.

mullerracing
ad#1897641

pat123
ad#1894854

malz28
ad #1894552

zbreed
ad #1881145

Now all of these guys have had their accounts for awhile and this isnt something I have just stumbled on. I have been watching them for well over a year. I dont get how the scam works unless they are hoping for replies from someone way far away? If you guys are bored hit them up with questions on the ads and see if you get any response...

Harbone66 is Jealous Jerk " Want To BE" He's the S
 

I know those persons or most of them there straight up I bought a nice car from one and parts from another without any problems.

They should sue you for the crap you put here

YEAH- I HEAR YOU---CHRIS--IS ALWAYS HIDING BEHIND HIS HIDDEN ALIASES :shock: :shock: SCAMMING/ CROOKING/ AND STEALING PEOPLES HARD EARNED MONEY :cry: :cry: :cry: RIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIGHT :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:


GEEE- HE DID NOT SAY THEY WHERE ALL CROOKS- JUST- IT SOUNDED AWFUL STRANGE

I think it's great to warn others and I am not saying Chris is wrong...but I gotta ask ...How would you guys feel if someone posted your user name in a scammer forum when you had never even had any dealings with them?

Re: Harbone66 is Jealous Jerk " Want To BE" He's t
 

Re: Harbone66 is Jealous Jerk " Want To BE" He's t
 

if you KNOW these persons , then they MUST be a tight group or the SAME person...the odds of you knowing a group of people taken out of a list of thousands aren't that great , ...what a crock...

well havent been on here all weekend, just wait till I post the threatening letter I recieved in the mail when I got home last night. Hey douchbags, if you want to put in writing that you will harm me or my family you are messing with the wrong matherfocker here!

Re: Harbone66 is Jealous Jerk " Want To BE" He's t
 

Sue me for what jackass??? asking questions and maybe wondering about validity of the ads? good luck with that, my lawyer will have a heyday with that lawsuit. so what is your name? maybe your buddies can come on here and explain themsleves? oh and let whichever one sent me the threatning letter in the mail that I am gonna turn it over to my buddy thats a State Trooper and give him those names listed so someone from the special crimes unit can contact RJ and get their info! You want to play? You picked the wrong person to write a letter and threaten his family, bring it on bitch!! :twisted:

Give em Hell Chris

Re: Harbone66 is Jealous Jerk " Want To BE" He's t
 

I second that. You might as well sue me too. I say you might be "Jacky427" or maybe "Hal396" too... just keep changing names to keep your PATHETIC games going... I love how all the cars are at outdoor car shows w/ the hoods up & described WRONG. It is ad after ad genius... someone is bound to call you on it. At the very least, maybe you will quit posting OTHER PEOPLES CARS!!! LOL!!! Get a life.

What a joke, Another scammer caught and can't handle the pressure :!: :!: Get'em Chris :!: Sue what a laugh :!: I would stick that letter right up your ass :!: :!: JMO Mark

cant let this one slide down to far... :twisted:

No one has been reported to be taken by any of thes persons
 

Think that slamming others that did nothing wrong is quite low!!!

The scum bags replying here about these guys are the scammers & rip off's that have nothing better to do!!!

Guys geat a life and go after the reported rip offs that are posted here, and not the guys that support the hobby!

Shoud not slam others that did no wrong
 

Exactly right no one reported any problems-- I dealt with some of these persos that this guy Chris wrote about-- I had no problems!

what is this guy no goping to write about us now?

well "racecoward", lets have a look see at a couple of your ads...

ad#1889143
same MO as the others one, says its tubbed but it still has stock wheels, says its a 525hp stroker motor but looks like a numbers matching resto to me and the pic looks like it was taken at a car show, ad says its in Homosassa Florida

ad #1894578
$15500 for a fully restored Chevelle 454 SS 4 speed, this one says its in Inverness Florida


ad #1829691
70 Chevelle 427 rat motor, oh wait, this one is in Dunnellon Florida

Wow dude, you sure do get around!!!

Give me some time, I will find a more crap on you...

by the way, where are you from? all your ads say florida...
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Re: Shoud not slam others that did no wrong
 

Your ad 1894578 restored LS6 4 speed $15,500.

NADA - Low $25k Mid $48 High $71K

http://www.nadaguides.com/default.as...&z=21771&da=-1

So you tell me raceHoward why are you $10k under the low end of the NADA and WHY as soon as you posted a response to Chris he got a threat to himself and his family in the mail?

Coincidence?

So why is your car so low? Because its not your car is it?

If so why dont you take 2 pics of the car for us to show your legit and not a Scammer who pirated the pics from a car show.

So here is what you do- make a small poster on a piece of cardboard that says 06/12/2010 and put it in two pics of your LS6, and post on this forum- That would prove its your car and not stolen pics.

Game? Ready to show you are an honest dude?

I already know the answer.

Scorp

Scorp, we all know the answer, I got about 10 different ads from RACECOWARD over the last 3-4 months, all with the same format, cheezy pic, vague description, to cheap or to expensive and short run time.
He aint coming back and if he does it will be a quick in and out like the douchebag he is :!: :twisted:

Re: Shoud not slam others that did no wrong
 

Since you quoted me I will respond...NOW I posted the above comment after Chris posted his list of suspicious ads.I stand by my statement that I think he should have left the user names off and only posted the ads...WHY? Because at that point, all he had was a suspicion based on the way the ads were.....but no scamming victim to prove his suspicion.I say only ad numbers and not names because by posting their user names,it would cause them to pop up if anyone did a search of the scammer forum prior to dealing with them.This could damage their reputation without cause...NOW, however,after further digging and based on your reaction/actions,and the threat letter etc,I think his instincts were SPOT ON and he did a good thing by exposing it.

Racehoward:

I think I know exactly why you are defending the users ads identified by Harbone66 in Illinois.

Heres you ad 1889143, and here is the description:

"car has DTS mini tub package, narrowed rear end, disc brakes, 525 hp 383 stroker, 400 auto with stall convertor poly bushings too much to list".

This is the car you snapped with your cell-phone. It was behind the cutlass, next to the copper 2nd gen camaro and next to the white 69 Camaro with the deluxe exterior.

Now here is ad 1897641, and here is the description;

"383 stroker with 500 horses, edelbrock heads & intake, headers, cam , th350 with stall, narrowed rearend, nice body runs 11.80 in 1/4".

This car was snapped with a cell-phone too. :)

Maybe just a dang ole coincidence, but all you have to do is post a few pics of your $15k LS6 with todays date or your 72 Z with today's date. And drop a line to the guys you are defending and tell them to come on and address Chris' post; clear the air so to speak.

Unless that has already happened............with your first post. :)

Also, unlock your profile so you aren't hidden when visiting.

Scorp

RCoward:

Face it, you have no proof yet. Your pic's of other peoples cars SUCK. They are at outdoor car shows. Your pic's are all the same: Front end shot w/ the hood up most of the time. You claim they are more modified than what they really are... these are restored cars in stock form that you claim have roll cages, stall converters, different motors, tubs, slicks, etc... YOU ARE FULL OF CRAP. I have personally called you out more than once on some of them. Last one was a 1st generation Camaro. Same thing: it was stock. You claimed it was built to the hilt. You said it was tubbed- it was not. It had stock rally wheels on it. If I was the owner of that car, I would be very upset at you for posting ad's of my car & claiming it was yours. You are caught. You fool no one here.

Here kitty kitty kitty. Are you there?

Racehoward how about some pictures to show your ads are legit? Just walk up to the car, put a note on it with todays date and take a pic with your cell-phone.

Is that a problem? Its not like you cobbed the pictures at a car show and the cars arent yours ;)

So show everyone what a stand up guy you are, unless you are choosing to be pathetic.

Post the pics to show you own what you are selling, and I will be the first in line to apologize.

Scorp

he isnt coming back unless he just pops in, calls us all scammers and leaves again. I got a little info on him, Postal Service has it too. If he dont make it back, might be because he is in Federal prison :!: :twisted:

Come on coward... lets see the proof.

If I only had the time... the will.... I bet I could find some serious dirt on you dirt-bag.

You know you are a fool coward. One smart thing you did- you ran like a filthy coward when you knew everyone was on to you. You are smart to go HIDE UNDER A ROCK.

The good news is I have not seen anymore ads from these guys including RACECOWARD since I started this post!!
:twisted:

How about letters Chris, Are you gettin' anymore keyboard kommando letters?

Lmao

nothing, I would hope they are not stupid enough to do it twice and if they did I am sure the boys with the badges at the Post Office would love it!

Been a long tome since I have seen anything from RaceCoward, till today. Now if he is from Florida (thats what all his previous ads said) why does he now have an ad in the Chicago area??


http://www.racingjunk.com/category/1...er-trades.html

now heres the same ad with another name on it, one of the names that racecoward says he did business with,the pics are the same but the descriptions are just a little different and its also out of the Chicago area

http://www.racingjunk.com/category/1...inch-auto.html

Interesting...

Not surprised... but interesting.

Re: No one has been reported to be taken by any of thes pers
 

first id like to start off by saying give em hell chris... nextly if these people really actually were scum bags im sure they would be on here "RIPPING PEOPLES HEADS OFF" and ill finish by saying most the people on here have a life becuase they have to pay for the race car some way instead of "RIPPING PEOPLE HEADS OFF"....... RaceHoward you are a moron.

Well said!!! Notice the two ads... same car/different cities on each ad. The name "mullerracing" is been on here many times...

You can try to put a TURD in your pocket raceCOWARD, but it still STINKS.

I know this is digging one up from a deep grave but I received a message from RJ today

Our records indicate that you may have been in contact with a member on our site that goes by User Name pat123.

We are writing to notify you that we have taken measures to disable their account, delete all messages sent by pat123 and delete any ads that pat123 may have been running.

As always we highly encourage you to report any ads or messages that seem suspicious, inappropriate or unfit.

Racingjunk.com...helping make your membership safer everyday!

Thank you.

I send these guys messages all the time (except racecoward, he blocked me) so I quess this is why RJ contacted me. One down, three to go! :lol:

HI GUYS SORRY TO HI JACK THIS FOR A SECOND, BUT I KNOW MOST OF YOU ,AND THE OTHER POST IS CLOSED, DID YOU NOTICE THAT TOTRADE AND SALTFLATJERKOFF BOTH CHANGED THERE NAMES ON HERE.............UMMM AND THEY BOTH DECIDE TO DO IT ABOUT THE SAME TIME......I WONDER.......HAPPY HOLIDAYS TO ALL HOPE YOU HAVE A GOOD YEAR MY R.J. BUDDIES......JAY, OH AND CHRIS ME AND MY BUDDY (COLT) LOVE TO HAVE VISITS OUT HERE ON MY FARM FROM SCUMBAGS LIKE THE 1S THAT SENT YOU THE LETTER......

Guess he is back add 183116037