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fbodyjunkie 12-12-2009 05:31 AM

The wolfpack is going overboard now.
 
I know I'm going to get bashed here and don't care. Not that I'll respond to get a lot of needless crap going. Either post a sticky to tell new members on here what you want to see in there first post, or be nice and ask them after they messed up. How many people have you ran off by bashing them up front? This seems to be getting worse lately. I for one would not want the first responds to say something like, you need better grammer. Not everyone on here knows good spelling or how to puncuate. And I don't see spell check on here. Or how about the moderators put in a "RANT & RAVE" section for those like me, LOL. There's alot of people in racing that has had bad expreinces with people thats not on here, but looking to save someone else some grief later on. They find this section and just want to rant and share. Do You blame them? I don't post that much, but I love to come on and read the posts where Scorpion leads the pack to get justice for someone. Or just to offer someone advice on what they can do. Or even to find out who is a good seller. Guys, and I mean the ones that frequent this section, I like you all and love to read the posts, but a few of you need to think before you write. I'm sure I'll get that last line turned back at me. :D Help the people alittle, before you chose to make fun of them. I just think the more people that feel welcomed in this section, the more help for everyone in the long run. If the moderators thinks this post is wrong please delete it. Thanks for reading. Merry Christmas and happy Holidays to all.

slowmotion 12-12-2009 05:44 AM

You're such a jerk!!!

Just kidding. :D
I agree we can be a little harsh on first time posters. I work for a race track that holds national events. Well I did till they laid me off. That's another story. Anyway they tell you, You might get asked the same question 20 times in one day. Don't get aggravated with the 20th person. Sure you've had to answer the same annoying question 19 times already, but to them, it's the first question they asked.

We need to ease up on the newbies and try to help them. If after that you find they are an idiot, flame on. :D

nvmyvettes 12-12-2009 06:54 AM

Interesting Article. I didnt write it, but I like it. Not directed toward any one person. Just a good observation


Many people live a life full of drama. There seems to be always some type of drama happening in their life. It is interesting to for me to observe people who live a life of drama. Outwardly people who live a life full of drama, claim to hate all of the drama and the stress that comes with it, however when you watch what is going on, you will often notice that they create much of the drama in their life. It may sometimes be subtle, however the catalyst for this drama in their life, often is themselves!

Why would one create drama in their life? Isn’t there enough drama that just happens as part of life, why would we want more? When we look at what we are exposed to on a daily basis, through TV shows, Movies, the daily news, steamy novels, it’s easy to discern why some people become drama junkies. The news and most TV shows are built around drama. Drama is entertaining to us when it is “someone elses’s” drama. That is why shows like “Desperate Housewife’s” and “Reality Shows” areso very popular, year’s ago it was “Dallas” and “Dynasty”. Soap operas have been around for years and are totally based on drama. We eat these types of programs up, we anxiously tune in or pick up the next novel to see the continuation of the drama, it’s fun, it’s entertaining, it’s also somewhat insidious in what affect it can have on our personal life.

We begin to think if we do not have drama in our life, then we simply must be missing something. Our life is boring, what do we have to talk about, if we don’t have something to bitch about in our life? What meaning would life have without all of the drama? This is why many people become drama junkies. Even when a everything is going great, life is peaceful and everything is going our way, a “Drama Junkie” is looking for ways to create drama or at the very least manifesting drama by thinking, “okay, things have been going too smoothly for too long, something is going to happen, I can just feel it”. Guess what, with that thinking, a person will attract drama into their life. After all, despite what the drama junkie might outwardly say, they desired the drama in the first place.

This unneeded drama in life creates stress and unravels relationships. Even when a person does get to the point where they realize they must break the pattern of drama in their life, they may mourn the drama. To reduce or to remove drama from some peoples life is a major change and it takes a period of adjustment. When the drama is gone then it must be replaced with some other type of emotions and activities. For a drama junkie, this is a very critical point of awareness.

Truth is our spiritual self does not need the drama. Our spiritual self is peace, is love, is the light and the most powerful energy there is. As we become more aware of our true self, we will have less and less desire for drama in our life. We will even get to the point where we develop a very low tolerance level for any drama.

To live in love is to live in peace and harmony.

What drama do you have in your life today?

Are you doing, saying, thinking thoughts which contribute to the perpetuation of drama in your life?

What shift in your thoughts, words, actions need to change to reduce/eliminate the drama in your life?

It is important to ask these questions of yourself to create more self awareness.

Harbone 12-12-2009 07:02 AM

I think that first time posters that just want to bitch deserve what they get. If the person would read through the feedback section and see what we are looking for when someone has a complaint then they would post properly and just not say thing like"so and so ripped me off and he's a jerk". Tell in detail the ad#, the persons user ID, details, details and more details, then all of us will jump in and so what we can to help or point them in the right direction for legal advise.
It just seems lately we get a lot of these 1st time posters that just want to bitch and about 50% of the time when the "scammer" in question comes back and tells his side of the story there is a lot more to it than what the original person posted.

Just my opinion...

Harbone 12-12-2009 07:11 AM


Originally Posted by nvmyvettes
Interesting Article. I didnt write it, but I like it. Not directed toward any one person. Just a good observation


Many people live a life full of drama. There seems to be always some type of drama happening in their life. It is interesting to for me to observe people who live a life of drama. Outwardly people who live a life full of drama, claim to hate all of the drama and the stress that comes with it, however when you watch what is going on, you will often notice that they create much of the drama in their life. It may sometimes be subtle, however the catalyst for this drama in their life, often is themselves!

Why would one create drama in their life? Isn’t there enough drama that just happens as part of life, why would we want more? When we look at what we are exposed to on a daily basis, through TV shows, Movies, the daily news, steamy novels, it’s easy to discern why some people become drama junkies. The news and most TV shows are built around drama. Drama is entertaining to us when it is “someone elses’s” drama. That is why shows like “Desperate Housewife’s” and “Reality Shows” areso very popular, year’s ago it was “Dallas” and “Dynasty”. Soap operas have been around for years and are totally based on drama. We eat these types of programs up, we anxiously tune in or pick up the next novel to see the continuation of the drama, it’s fun, it’s entertaining, it’s also somewhat insidious in what affect it can have on our personal life.

We begin to think if we do not have drama in our life, then we simply must be missing something. Our life is boring, what do we have to talk about, if we don’t have something to bitch about in our life? What meaning would life have without all of the drama? This is why many people become drama junkies. Even when a everything is going great, life is peaceful and everything is going our way, a “Drama Junkie” is looking for ways to create drama or at the very least manifesting drama by thinking, “okay, things have been going too smoothly for too long, something is going to happen, I can just feel it”. Guess what, with that thinking, a person will attract drama into their life. After all, despite what the drama junkie might outwardly say, they desired the drama in the first place.

This unneeded drama in life creates stress and unravels relationships. Even when a person does get to the point where they realize they must break the pattern of drama in their life, they may mourn the drama. To reduce or to remove drama from some peoples life is a major change and it takes a period of adjustment. When the drama is gone then it must be replaced with some other type of emotions and activities. For a drama junkie, this is a very critical point of awareness.

Truth is our spiritual self does not need the drama. Our spiritual self is peace, is love, is the light and the most powerful energy there is. As we become more aware of our true self, we will have less and less desire for drama in our life. We will even get to the point where we develop a very low tolerance level for any drama.

To live in love is to live in peace and harmony.

What drama do you have in your life today?

Are you doing, saying, thinking thoughts which contribute to the perpetuation of drama in your life?

What shift in your thoughts, words, actions need to change to reduce/eliminate the drama in your life?

It is important to ask these questions of yourself to create more self awareness.

Thats an interesting read, I have a buddy that a great airbrush artist, he made the wife and I a sign that hangs in my garage. it says its all...
"welcome to Chris & Karla's please leave the DRAMA at the door!"

nvmyvettes 12-12-2009 07:22 AM

Here are some Quotes I like. Along the same lines but in a shorter versions. Some things to think about for sure.

An Optimist believes we live in the best of all worlds, the Pessimist fears this is true."

There is little difference in people, but that little difference makes a big difference. The little difference is attitude. The big difference is whether it is positive or negative.

Dwelling on the negative simply contributes to its power

Fear is that little darkroom where negatives are developed.

Neither irony or sarcasm is argument.

It is remarkable by how much a pinch of malice enhances the penetrating power of an idea or an opinion. Our ears, it seems, are wonderfully attuned to sneers and evil reports about our fellow men

You cannot shake hands with a clenched fist.

The Non-reciprocal Law of Expectations: Positive expectations yield negative results, but negative expectations yield negative results.
Anything that starts out good ends badly. Anything that starts out badly, ends worse

A man that studieth revenge keeps his own wounds green, which otherwise would heal and do well.

Nearly all men can withstand adversity, if you want to test a man's character, give him power.

The greatest minds are capable of the greatest vices as well as of the greatest virtues.

Wrongs are often forgiven, but contempt never is. Our pride remembers it forever

The greatest of faults, I should say, is to be conscious of none.

Evil is like a shadow - it has no real substance of its own, it is simply a lack of light. You cannot cause a shadow to disappear by trying to fight it, stamp on it, by railing against it, or any other form of emotional or physical resistance. In order to cause a shadow to disappear, you must shine light on it

"welcome to Chris & Karla's please leave the DRAMA at the door!" By Harbone

nvmyvettes 12-12-2009 07:24 AM

Harbone , I love it !!!!

Harbone 12-12-2009 07:54 AM

:D

slowmotion 12-12-2009 09:31 AM


Originally Posted by harbone66
Thats an interesting read, I have a buddy that a great airbrush artist, he made the wife and I a sign that hangs in my garage. it says its all...
"welcome to Chris & Karla's please leave the DRAMA at the door!"

I have a sign shop. I made one for a friends pool that says "This is our ool. Notice that there is no "P" in it. Lets keep it that way" :D

Thanks for the words of wisdom nvmyvettes.

DirkaDirka 12-12-2009 09:38 AM

I like the idea of having a sticky saying whatr needs to be on the first post in this thread. They can either copy and paste the format or do it their own way just as long as everything is in the post. Just my .02

DRTRCR22 12-12-2009 09:47 AM

I agree with Chris' first reply...
It is not fair to the others on here itching to help someone, to have to deal with totally illiterate and inconsiderate posters who just want to rant and rave about a deal they got into because of their stupidity.

I am not talking about the occasional spelling or grammar mistake, but how the hell are you suppose to understand something like... THISGUYMADEMEMADBECASEHERIPEDMEOFWHENHETOLDMEHISPA RTISBRNADNEWWHENACTULLYITISTOTALYJUNKANDHEGOTMYBRA NDNEWSTUFINTRADFORHISTRADE...

I don't care who you are... that is NOT funny...!

This level of education reveals the preliminary reason this guy got scammed... and I am sorry but that is not OUR problem...!

Does "Buyer Beware", "Investigate thoroughly", "Get a second opinion", and "If it is too good to be true, it is" not mean anything any more...?

Yes, I believe in the old cliche "There are no stupid questions", but these posters are not asking "questions" for help, they are just ranting and raving for attention to make others feel sorry for their stupidity.
And YES, I have done that myself, so I know what I am talking about, but no it really didn't make me feel any better...

I also agree there should be a re-direct (before posting) to a sticky with the "Rules of Posting Complaints". Then if the whiner wants to either educate himself, or find a literate person to put his complaint to ink, then so be it... and we will try to help him/her anyway we can...

Jim

Scorpion1110 12-12-2009 12:32 PM

huh?
 

Originally Posted by DRTRCR22
I agree with Chris' first reply...
It is not fair to the others on here itching to help someone, to have to deal with totally illiterate and inconsiderate posters who just want to rant and rave about a deal they got into because of their stupidity.

I am not talking about the occasional spelling or grammar mistake, but how the hell are you suppose to understand something like... THISGUYMADEMEMADBECASEHERIPEDMEOFWHENHETOLDMEHISPA RTISBRNADNEWWHENACTULLYITISTOTALYJUNKANDHEGOTMYBRA NDNEWSTUFINTRADFORHISTRADE...

I don't care who you are... that is NOT funny...!

This level of education reveals the preliminary reason this guy got scammed... and I am sorry but that is not OUR problem...!

Does "Buyer Beware", "Investigate thoroughly", "Get a second opinion", and "If it is too good to be true, it is" not mean anything any more...?

Yes, I believe in the old cliche "There are no stupid questions", but these posters are not asking "questions" for help, they are just ranting and raving for attention to make others feel sorry for their stupidity.
And YES, I have done that myself, so I know what I am talking about, but no it really didn't make me feel any better...

I also agree there should be a re-direct (before posting) to a sticky with the "Rules of Posting Complaints". Then if the whiner wants to either educate himself, or find a literate person to put his complaint to ink, then so be it... and we will try to help him/her anyway we can...

Jim

Did you really just say this;

"This level of education reveals the preliminary reason this guy got scammed... and I am sorry but that is not OUR problem...! "

So are you saying that its more likely a high school educated person will be scammed than a college educated one?

So should you expect to be scammed if you dont have sufficient education?

Help me out as I am having a hard time following this logic.

I would have thought the primary reason was intent to scam by the dishonest party.

Scorp

DRTRCR22 12-12-2009 02:55 PM

True... if YOU don't do your homework, you are more likely to fail the test!

Gullible and un-informed people who are easy targets are what keeps these scammers in business!

Unfortunately, even some of us with a fair amount of common sense STILL get scammed by the best con-men out there. That is when all of us here on this forum try to help the victims recover their losses from these crooks.

Sadly though, if every victim were to admit it, a large part of the fault is not taking the time and effort to properly do our HOMEWORK!

So, before you go off on me, I am NOT an educated genius, and have been scammed myself a couple times. And yes, I realize it was more my fault that anyone elses, so I will not cry and whine to the whole world about MY screwup for not doing my homework.

Next...

Scorpion1110 12-12-2009 03:12 PM


Originally Posted by DRTRCR22
True... if YOU don't do your homework, you are more likely to fail the test!

Gullible and un-informed people who are easy targets are what keeps these scammers in business!

Unfortunately, even some of us with a fair amount of common sense STILL get scammed by the best con-men out there. That is when all of us here on this forum try to help the victims recover their losses from these crooks.

Sadly though, if every victim were to admit it, a large part of the fault is not taking the time and effort to properly do our HOMEWORK!

So, before you go off on me, I am NOT an educated genius, and have been scammed myself a couple times. And yes, I realize it was more my fault that anyone elses, so I will not cry and whine to the whole world about MY screwup for not doing my homework.

Next...

So might it be more about lack of experience rather than lack of education?

Scorp

DRTRCR22 12-12-2009 04:13 PM

Ok... a little of both... Wordly Experience, AND Wordly Eductation... which could more commonly refered to as general Common Sense.

I have seen way too many intellectual college educated idiots who can't even use a screwdriver, but they can argue the theory of relativity...
Einstein could not even tie his own shoes... and Rednecks make the best entertainment, but God help them all... :shock:

Harbone 12-12-2009 04:18 PM


Originally Posted by DRTRCR22
Ok... a little of both... Wordly Experience, AND Wordly Eductation... which could more commonly refered to as general Common Sense.

I have seen way too many intellectual college educated idiots who can't even use a screwdriver, but they can argue the theory of relativity...
Einstein could not even tie his own shoes... and Rednecks make the best entertainment, but God help them all... :shock:

and white trash rules!!! :lol: :lol:

nvmyvettes 12-12-2009 05:44 PM

Lack of education,worldly experience, common sense, plus about 100 other factors could be why we've all been scammed at one time or another. But the real reason peopled get scammed is because of piece of **** people that have no pride,principles or morals.
You simply have the scammer and the victim. JMO

nvmyvettes 12-12-2009 05:54 PM

BTW RULE OF THUMB :

IF IT AINT SO, DONT SAY IT. DONT EVEN IMPLY IT!!!

mopar1968 12-12-2009 06:51 PM

The only thing i can say is this : DRTRCR22 You are a over educated idiot if you think that someone need's a higher education to keep from being scammed, It happen's to people with a much higher education than your's everyday, And no i don't know what education you have and really don't care, You are showing it right here for everyone to see :!: :!: :!:


''JUST MY TWO CENT'S WORTH''

eddie1963 12-13-2009 05:46 AM

WE LOOSE THE MAIN REASON FOR THE SECTION
 
WE LOOSE THE MAIN REASON FOR THE SECTION. i read this alot , however i usually dont get to the end because it looses my attention by getting so far off course its not even 'FUNNY?' i have seen complaints start fine but end in bull crap gossip that should be in another section. education has nothing to do with getting taken advantage of? even someone with a PHD can be robbed. i am a looser, dont need attention just posting my opinion. but > GOD BLESS happy holiday!

hollowayshotrods 12-13-2009 10:55 AM

This could quite possibly be the stupidest thing I have ever heard from an incredibly educated and wordly man. :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:


Originally Posted by DRTRCR22
Ok... a little of both... Wordly Experience, AND Wordly Eductation... which could more commonly refered to as general Common Sense.

I have seen way too many intellectual college educated idiots who can't even use a screwdriver, but they can argue the theory of relativity...
Einstein could not even tie his own shoes... and Rednecks make the best entertainment, but God help them all... :shock:


DRTRCR22 12-13-2009 11:52 AM

Ok... so most of you missed the point...

How gullible are you willing to be?
How willing are you to believe anything you hear?
What does YOUR sign say? You are eager to laugh at someone else's "here's your sign..." but what does YOURS say?

In today's world... believe nothing you hear and only half what you see, and cut that in half every day!
To look at it any other way will nominate you for the next fool in line for a good flossing...

NEXT...

hollowayshotrods 12-13-2009 12:15 PM

Nope, sorry guys.......This is the stupidest thing I have ever heard an incredibly educated man of the world say.
My sign says "Leave your arrogance at the door".


Originally Posted by DRTRCR22
Ok... so most of you missed the point...

How gullible are you willing to be?
How willing are you to believe anything you hear?
What does YOUR sign say? You are eager to laugh at someone else's "here's your sign..." but what does YOURS say?

In today's world... believe nothing you hear and only half what you see, and cut that in half every day!
To look at it any other way will nominate you for the next fool in line for a good flossing...

NEXT...


hollowayshotrods 12-13-2009 12:17 PM

Oh yeah,,
NEXT...............ROFLMAO :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

mopar1968 12-13-2009 12:52 PM

Mine say's for you to go back to the rock you rolled out from under :!: :!:



''JUST MY TWO CENT'S WORTH''

Scorpion1110 12-13-2009 12:56 PM


Originally Posted by DRTRCR22
Ok... so most of you missed the point...

How gullible are you willing to be?
How willing are you to believe anything you hear?
What does YOUR sign say? You are eager to laugh at someone else's "here's your sign..." but what does YOURS say?

In today's world... believe nothing you hear and only half what you see, and cut that in half every day!
To look at it any other way will nominate you for the next fool in line for a good flossing...

NEXT...

Nope- no redirection on this one. What you said was specific:

This level of education reveals the preliminary reason this guy got scammed... and I am sorry but that is not OUR problem...!

To read this is to assume that you are stereotyping the less educated as a driver for being scammed.

First off all this is an obviously arrogant comment. It is also ignorant.

The level of education has nothing to do with being scammed. You can have a PHD, complete a sales agreement, send a USPS MO via registered mail and ..... still not get your parts.

The assumption in reading your quote is that buyers withhout education dont know what to ask or how to protect themselves and that is not true. I know several very smart businessmen who dont have college and are smart and business savvy.

Your statement looks down on people based on how much school they have- Its obvious yet there's no effort to apologize.

Even if you did not mean it that way- you could see the misinterpretation and apologize.

But of course you couldnt do that.

People get scammed because the other party is dishonest. And getting scammed has nothing to do with education, economic standing or any other stereotype.

As you seemingly judge people by their education, you are now being judged by your words.

karma is indeed a bitch today.

Scorp

DRTRCR22 12-13-2009 04:39 PM

And you no doubt believed every word Obama and his wrecking crew told you, and still voted for him anyways, huh?

Strange... I can't seem to find ANYONE who voted for him nowdays...?

That is why this country is going down the commode in a whirlwind... too many STUPID people believe too many idealistic stories as being the gospel truth, and they can't beleive the real truth when shove in their face.

Nope, no need for me apologizing for anything, because that is just my opinion just like you have yours... like it or not, it is what it is... arogant maybe... ignorant no...

Want proof... check this out...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b5p3OB6roAg

hollowayshotrods 12-13-2009 04:43 PM

Really, really wrong again guys :!: :!:
This is the stupidest thing I have ever heard an incredibly educated man of the world say.
I love it Jim, the more you talk the stupider you look. If in fact, that is possible. For an educated man, you have trouble spelling the simplest of words.


Originally Posted by DRTRCR22
And you no doubt believed every word Obama and his wrecking crew told you, and still voted for him anyways, huh?

Strange... I can't seem to find ANYONE who voted for him nowdays...?

That is why this country is going down the commode in a whirlwind... too many STUPID people believe too many idealistic stories as being the gospel truth, and they can't beleive the real truth when shove in their face.

Nope, no need for me apologizing for anything, because that is just my opinion just like you have yours... like it or not, it is what it is... arogant maybe... ignorant no...

Want proof... check this out...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b5p3OB6roAg


DRTRCR22 12-13-2009 05:02 PM

Really Professor, well then since class is in session, why don't you educate me on the number one reason these people coming to this thread got scammed...?

I don't think you want to start out with "well the scammer outsmarted the buyer" because that would just proove my point!

Maybe you could start out with "W...T... F... were they THINKING...?"

and I will really try to pay attention and learn how to NEVER make any kind of typing or grammar mistakes so I can be perfect like you dad...

NEXT...

mopar1968 12-13-2009 05:06 PM

Pick me, Pick me, To whine, Whine, Whine, Because either their wife has more manhood than they do and say's take it back, OR they didn't go and look at it and it is blue instead of red :!: :!:



''JUST MY TWO CENT'S WORTH''

hollowayshotrods 12-13-2009 05:11 PM

What a retard! I bet you have no friends, do you? Rednecks make the best entertainment! What a stupid ass statement! As far a "wordly experience" and common sense being related......wrong again! My 10 year old has tons of common sense but no wordly education, just another doofus opinion you have. You have undermined your credibility here to great extent, you likely could care less though since your arrogance extends past the scope of your reasoning. Good luck gaining friends and help in your "wordly world".


Originally Posted by DRTRCR22
Ok... a little of both... Wordly Experience, AND Wordly Eductation... which could more commonly refered to as general Common Sense.

I have seen way too many intellectual college educated idiots who can't even use a screwdriver, but they can argue the theory of relativity...
Einstein could not even tie his own shoes... and Rednecks make the best entertainment, but God help them all... :shock:


DRTRCR22 12-13-2009 05:42 PM

Oh, I'm sorry, I missed what you were saying... I was deep into reading and studying my "Typing and Spelling for Dummies 101" so I don't get any more red marks on my report card...
What was your answer again... I don't want to miss anything?

Wait... I'll be right back... my only friend (my alter-ego) is calling me, so I'll be back as soon I hear what he has to say...

DRTRCR22 12-13-2009 05:49 PM

Ok... I'm back... he wanted to tell me something about the really funny Redneck videos he just watched on Country Fried, America's Funniest Videos, and the World's Dumbest Criminals... with the host implying something about "W...T...F... were they thinking"...

mopar1968 12-13-2009 05:56 PM

Ramble-Ramble- Ramble :? :?




''JUST MY TWO CENT'S WORTH''

hollowayshotrods 12-13-2009 06:00 PM

Mark, Everyone here realizes he is an idiot, he will go away very soon due to being ignored. I am sure he is used to this though :shock:
Running in here among us rednecks thinking he will educate us on his wordly ways!!! LMAO, I let my kids read his stuff, even they think he is retarded.

DRTRCR22 12-13-2009 06:10 PM

or in redneck language that is...sofa king we tad it...

DRTRCR22 12-13-2009 06:21 PM

Awe come-on guys, wheredja go...? I thought you wanted to be my friends... and to think we were having so much fun pickin on each other with really good slams... you really don't have to run and hide...I'll play nice... I promise... please come back...? pleeeeeze...

mopar1968 12-13-2009 06:23 PM

Rudy my wife was just looking over my shoulder reading this she ask me who is that idiot, I said who she said the one right there with the red car, coming from her enough said, And by the way DRTRCR22 BEFORE YOU SAY ANYTHING SHE HAS A MASTER'S DEGREE :!: :!:



''JUST MY TWO CENT'S WORTH''

lively 12-13-2009 06:28 PM

"SHE HAS A MASTER'S DEGREE "

and is she your { master}??? :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: only kidding-WHAT WOULD WE DO WITHOUT OUR GREAT WIVES TO DIRECT OUR PATHS!!!!! 8) 8) 8) 8)
LIVELY

mytmouz 12-13-2009 06:30 PM


Originally Posted by lively
"SHE HAS A MASTER'S DEGREE "

and is she your { master}??? :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: only kidding-WHAT WOULD WE DO WITHOUT OUR GREAT WIVES TO DIRECT OUR PATHS!!!!! 8) 8) 8) 8)
LIVELY

Die rich...


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