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VALVE ADJUSTMENT 4/7 SWAP CAM
Wats the easiest meathod to adjust my valves on a BBC with a 4/7 swap cam?
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The exact same way you adjust them on any engine. the 4 7 swap has nothing to do with it...unless you use a method like "Bring number 1 to TDC then adjust intakes on these cylinders.... etc
Just adjust each valve when the lifter is on the base circle. When the ex starts to open, adjust the intake. When the intake has opened completely and is on it's way closed, adjust the exhaust. |
That answer hasnt realy given me a method. I have always done it starting on TDC etc. Wats the best way to do it. and the quickest
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Originally Posted by jrthone
That answer hasnt realy given me a method. I have always done it starting on TDC etc. Wats the best way to do it. and the quickest
Originally Posted by Tod74
When the ex starts to open, adjust the intake. When the intake has opened completely and is on it's way closed, adjust the exhaust.
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Do it the way Tod said to do it.
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I adjust mine like Tod said only I adjust them in the firing order. I do the exhaust first, then the intakes. This way I'm only rotating the engine over a couple of times.
TS1955 |
Just lash them the way you've always done it. WITH the new firing order, you'll be just fine. As long as the lifter is on the base circle, for the valve you are adjusting, everthing will be just fine.
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when using EO IC method you must be quick... I recomend turning the idle speed down as low as possible. ...
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I just fell out of my chair laughing Tod! :lol:
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ok thanks. all that info was no help at all. In the above 8 threads i did not get step by step method. I am new to this and this has wasted alot of my time. If ANY 1 out there has a STEP by STEP Method it would be greatly apreciated.
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Heres my step by step method.
Step#1 remove valve covers. Step#2 remove spark plugs (makes it easier to turn motor by hand) Step#3 adjust valves like Tod said> "When the ex starts to open, adjust the intake. When the intake has opened completely and is on it's way closed, adjust the exhaust" Step#4 re-install valve covers and plugs. That pretty much covers it. |
Originally Posted by jrthone
ok thanks. all that info was no help at all. In the above 8 threads i did not get step by step method. I am new to this and this has wasted alot of my time. If ANY 1 out there has a STEP by STEP Method it would be greatly apreciated.
Then You said "I usually start with TDC etc...." that implies that you already know how to adjust valves and that your only issue was that you now have a 4,7 firing order swap cam...If you didn't already know how to adjust valves you should have said so, I would have been more specific. Open hood. Unbolt valve covers by rotating bolts or nuts counterclockwise with the appropriate wrench.Remove coil wire(Accomplish this by firmly grasping the rubber boot on coil wire and pulling...I recommend the engine be off ) pick a cylinder...bump the engine over with a remote starter (by pushing the button ) until the exhaust valve on that cylinder starts to open...stop moving engine. Now insert a allen wrench in the poly lock on the intake valve while holding the outside of it with a box end wrench.Break set screw loose by rotating allan wrench in a COUNTER CLOCKWISE DIRECTION. and back nut up by turning it counter clockwise..insert feeler gauge.. tighten nut by turning wrench clockwise until there is firm drag on the feeler gauge...hold hex with wrench while snugging down set screw by turning it clockwise... recheck with feeler gauge..it will probably be looser, then snug down with hex wrench( clockwise) the last little bit. Check with feeler gauges.(go no go with .001" bigger and .001" smaller) Now bump motor over until that valve opens all the way up and is on it's way closed..repeat previous process on the exhaust valve. That's how I do it...I start on one side and do them all then go to the other side...takes a little longer maybe but to me there is less chance of missing one. Just my opinion everyone has their own way to do things. |
Originally Posted by cepx111
Heres my step by step method.
Step#1 remove valve covers. Step#2 remove spark plugs (makes it easier to turn motor by hand) Step#3 adjust valves like Tod said> "When the ex starts to open, adjust the intake. When the intake has opened completely and is on it's way closed, adjust the exhaust" Step#4 re-install valve covers and plugs. That pretty much covers it. |
Thanks heaps for the smart ass comments. I think this somes up some americans.
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Sorry, Americans cans be little arrogant. Give us a little time we'll learn to DUMB down to your level were you might be able to u n d e r s t a n d.
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SMART BUTT AMERICAN & PROUD OF IT :!: 8)
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Originally Posted by jrthone
Thanks heaps for the smart a comments. I think this somes up some americans.
No one is being a smart ass here, although some made those remarks. There is no special way to adjust the rockers on a 4/7 swap cam. You just adjust them one at a time once the engine is warmed up. Use a breakerbar or a rachet and turn the engine over until the exhaust starts to open and adjust the intake on that cylinder, same for the exhaust. Don't ever look for short cuts on a race engine, it will bite you in the butt. It's not fast and it's not quick, but it's the right way. JMO Zip. |
Originally Posted by jrthone
Thanks heaps for the smart a comments. I think this somes up some americans.
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Originally Posted by jrthone
Thanks heaps for the smart a comments. I think this somes up some americans.
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You guys might as well give it up. Like was said, it's the cultural difference that we AMERICANS can't match. I've been through this same sh@t with another on here and you just can't dumb it down enough. Good Luck! :roll: :roll: Dave
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Thanks Zipper06 for your comment. You are the only one on here that hasnt made a smart ass comment. You Other guys are so easy to wind up. Its like going fishing, once one fish bites .ITS ALL ON. haha keep it coming and ill keep laughing.
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Man,..I havent been in here in awhile,..and I must tell you story..
Doctors are great, they can fixall sorts of things,..They can do tummy tuks, they can do breast implants, and breast reductions, they can do lipo suction, and face lifts,nose jobs and all sorts of other alterations. But they just cant fix STUPID. Good luck on your blow job, .woops I mean Valve job,.woops,.. I mean Valve adjust. 4/7 swap just means when adjusting the valves instead of adjusting before 7am , you now adjust the valves after 4pm,...Awwwwww. BIG AMERICAN SMILE Slick I just had to do it. |
The bad thing, is your question coming from you is like us asking Neal Armstrong how you set the thrust on a rocket motor. We wouldn't even know what the answer meant. Looks to me like your position on your racecar is you don't know anything about engines so the answer is uncomprehendable. There's nothing wrong with you being that ignorant on engines, but you should be a little more humble. Your question was answered correctly many times. Lighten up maybe you'll learn something.
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:shock: I saw a few pretty good post with step by step instructions by some pretty good people , if you don't know how to adjust valves , what are you doing with a race car?? whats with the AMERICAN wise crack??HILLDALE where are you when we need you?????
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Originally Posted by Tod74
Originally Posted by jrthone
ok thanks. all that info was no help at all. In the above 8 threads i did not get step by step method. I am new to this and this has wasted alot of my time. If ANY 1 out there has a STEP by STEP Method it would be greatly apreciated.
Then You said "I usually start with TDC etc...." that implies that you already know how to adjust valves and that your only issue was that you now have a 4,7 firing order swap cam...If you didn't already know how to adjust valves you should have said so, I would have been more specific. Open hood. Unbolt valve covers by rotating bolts or nuts counterclockwise with the appropriate wrench.Remove coil wire(Accomplish this by firmly grasping the rubber boot on coil wire and pulling...I recommend the engine be off ) pick a cylinder...bump the engine over with a remote starter (by pushing the button ) until the exhaust valve on that cylinder starts to open...stop moving engine. Now insert a allen wrench in the poly lock on the intake valve while holding the outside of it with a box end wrench.Break set screw loose by rotating allan wrench in a COUNTER CLOCKWISE DIRECTION. and back nut up by turning it counter clockwise..insert feeler gauge.. tighten nut by turning wrench clockwise until there is firm drag on the feeler gauge...hold hex with wrench while snugging down set screw by turning it clockwise... recheck with feeler gauge..it will probably be looser, then snug down with hex wrench( clockwise) the last little bit. Check with feeler gauges.(go no go with .001" bigger and .001" smaller) Now bump motor over until that valve opens all the way up and is on it's way closed..repeat previous process on the exhaust valve. That's how I do it...I start on one side and do them all then go to the other side...takes a little longer maybe but to me there is less chance of missing one. Just my opinion everyone has their own way to do things. |
Smart aleck Americans
Step 1- Take the car to a MECHANIC.
Step 2- Ask him to adjust your valves. Step 3- Pay the man. Last step- Take car home. Maybe the easiest and fastest method in your case. Ain't it funny how Americans seem to band together when criticized by foreigners. Keep on laughing.......We are. Hows that for summing it up? |
:D I never had a problem with the 4-7 swap , but when I went to the 3 - 6 swap I had to adjust all the intake valves backwards,,,what was real hard was , I had to tear down motor and swap the 3 and 6 pistons around backwards , , now I have a small misfire , I was told that I need a special rotor button , will it never end???? :roll:
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Originally Posted by 68bbnova
Originally Posted by Tod74
Originally Posted by jrthone
ok thanks. all that info was no help at all. In the above 8 threads i did not get step by step method. I am new to this and this has wasted alot of my time. If ANY 1 out there has a STEP by STEP Method it would be greatly apreciated.
Then You said "I usually start with TDC etc...." that implies that you already know how to adjust valves and that your only issue was that you now have a 4,7 firing order swap cam...If you didn't already know how to adjust valves you should have said so, I would have been more specific. Open hood. Unbolt valve covers by rotating bolts or nuts counterclockwise with the appropriate wrench.Remove coil wire(Accomplish this by firmly grasping the rubber boot on coil wire and pulling...I recommend the engine be off ) pick a cylinder...bump the engine over with a remote starter (by pushing the button ) until the exhaust valve on that cylinder starts to open...stop moving engine. Now insert a allen wrench in the poly lock on the intake valve while holding the outside of it with a box end wrench.Break set screw loose by rotating allan wrench in a COUNTER CLOCKWISE DIRECTION. and back nut up by turning it counter clockwise..insert feeler gauge.. tighten nut by turning wrench clockwise until there is firm drag on the feeler gauge...hold hex with wrench while snugging down set screw by turning it clockwise... recheck with feeler gauge..it will probably be looser, then snug down with hex wrench( clockwise) the last little bit. Check with feeler gauges.(go no go with .001" bigger and .001" smaller) Now bump motor over until that valve opens all the way up and is on it's way closed..repeat previous process on the exhaust valve. That's how I do it...I start on one side and do them all then go to the other side...takes a little longer maybe but to me there is less chance of missing one. Just my opinion everyone has their own way to do things. |
I'm glad this isn't a 4,7 & 2,3 swap cam :lol:
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Throw a 180 crank in there and we can start over...
Dave |
Originally Posted by Tod74
Originally Posted by 68bbnova
Originally Posted by Tod74
Originally Posted by jrthone
ok thanks. all that info was no help at all. In the above 8 threads i did not get step by step method. I am new to this and this has wasted alot of my time. If ANY 1 out there has a STEP by STEP Method it would be greatly apreciated.
Then You said "I usually start with TDC etc...." that implies that you already know how to adjust valves and that your only issue was that you now have a 4,7 firing order swap cam...If you didn't already know how to adjust valves you should have said so, I would have been more specific. Open hood. Unbolt valve covers by rotating bolts or nuts counterclockwise with the appropriate wrench.Remove coil wire(Accomplish this by firmly grasping the rubber boot on coil wire and pulling...I recommend the engine be off ) pick a cylinder...bump the engine over with a remote starter (by pushing the button ) until the exhaust valve on that cylinder starts to open...stop moving engine. Now insert a allen wrench in the poly lock on the intake valve while holding the outside of it with a box end wrench.Break set screw loose by rotating allan wrench in a COUNTER CLOCKWISE DIRECTION. and back nut up by turning it counter clockwise..insert feeler gauge.. tighten nut by turning wrench clockwise until there is firm drag on the feeler gauge...hold hex with wrench while snugging down set screw by turning it clockwise... recheck with feeler gauge..it will probably be looser, then snug down with hex wrench( clockwise) the last little bit. Check with feeler gauges.(go no go with .001" bigger and .001" smaller) Now bump motor over until that valve opens all the way up and is on it's way closed..repeat previous process on the exhaust valve. That's how I do it...I start on one side and do them all then go to the other side...takes a little longer maybe but to me there is less chance of missing one. Just my opinion everyone has their own way to do things. |
I would...but it would be too much for stupid Americans to comprehend....IMBECILES.
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Originally Posted by Tod74
I would...but it would be too much for stupid Americans to comprehend....IMBECILES.
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I KNOW I AIN'T STUPID ,,,WHY HELL , IT WAS JUST THE OTHER DAY MY WIFE WAS TELLING ME HOW" SMART "I AM ,,,NO WAIT A MINIUTE THAT WAS " SMARTA$$" ,,,, AGAIN.. :shock:
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