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Turbodbuick 01-11-2008 06:45 PM

Thumbs Down to FASTRACK AUTO & TRAILRES HARRISON, OHIO
 
I am un Happy with my experience with Fastrack & with my 30 ft Team Spirit Trailer. I think both are of very poor quality. I would not recommend them.

OneBadGMC 01-11-2008 07:43 PM

Silly question, but...

You inspected this and found all of this wrong and bought it anyhow? /confused.

lively 01-11-2008 08:27 PM


Originally Posted by OneBadGMC
Silly question, but...

You inspected this and found all of this wrong and bought it anyhow? /confused.


TOTALLY CONFUSED :cry: :cry: :cry:

RonOwensRacing 01-11-2008 08:43 PM

I also have looked at all kinds of trailers and i ended up having my trailer built by W&M trailers in lawrenceburg ind. and am very happy i did it is the best trailer i ever owned and they are the best people to deal with on trailers i have ever seen .

And they are about 5 miles from where you got your trailer at

Mike lawrence is the guy to talk to on trailers 812-539-1880
I know it's to late now but keep there no# and if any one is looking for a trailer i highly recommend you call them.
great trailers and great people all at one shop.

Turbodbuick 01-12-2008 09:26 AM

I am un Happy with my experience with Fastrack & with my 30 ft Team Spirit Trailer. I think both are of very poor quality. I would not recommend them.

Turbodbuick 01-12-2008 09:28 AM


Originally Posted by rlmotorsports
I also have looked and all kinds of trailers and i ended up having my trailer built by W&M trailers in lawrenceburg ind. and am very happy i did it is the best trailer i ever owned and they are the best people to deal with on trailers i have ever seen .

And they are about 5 miles from where you got your trailer at

Mike lawnrence is the guy to talk to on trailers 812-539-1880
I know it's to late now but keep there no# and if any one is looking for a trailer i highly recommend you call them.

I'll keep his info. I have a couple of people looking to buy very soon. Thanks! Wish I would of known before hand!

27keith 01-13-2008 05:27 PM

I've got two buddies who have bought those Team Spirit trailers. WOW , both are piles of you know what!!! The floor in one of them warped worse than any thing I have seen, we are talking it was about 12" off the cross braces. He took it back to the factory and they fixed/ replaced the floor no- charge but he still had a day and fuel in it! Very cheap quality throughout. You get what you pay for most of the time.

apinball 01-14-2008 07:17 AM

How can it be junk if the trailer factory took care of the problems

fastrackat 01-14-2008 07:38 AM

Fastrack & Team Spirit
 
To the gentleman who drove 350 miles from MIssouri to purchase a trailer. The Black 30' trailer you saw on the lot was a sold unit, and was sold before he contacted the company to purchase one. The extras are just that extras, they are added to price of the trailer, not included. The ad says nothing about spare tires, wheel chocks, ect. Team Spirit Trailers are inspected upon arrival at the company and this one was inspected by the customer before it left the lot. Titles are never handed out to a customer when a check is used for payment, cash only deals is the only deal where the title is given. Apparently this customer has never been given a bad check and had to repo a trailer because of it. Title are sent out after the check has cleared both banks.

RonOwensRacing 01-14-2008 07:46 AM

Team spirit trailers are a low end trailer there are reasons they cost less than a lot of other trailers but in the long run it is worth the few extra dollars and get what you really want i will never buy a production line trailer again . iv had plenty of them and after having one custom built i will never own another one .
and you would be surprised that there is not that much of a difference in price . and to get what you want it is well worth the money and no head ache.
just my 2 cents .

apinball 01-14-2008 07:50 AM

What is a "low end trailer"? Are you going by the name or the quality?

lively 01-14-2008 09:24 AM

on new trailers --you get what you pay for on enclosed unit---but to go ahead and buy the trailer when you admit to finding things wrong [ is just plain crazy]---you checked it / you bought it/ just accept a bad deal and go on---and as far as " fastrackat" coming here to defend themselves[ that is good]--they proved they sell stripped down units!!!-----my opinion and not the opinion of this site :? :? :? -----lively in illinois

mike2 01-14-2008 09:48 AM

:roll: Simply amazing another person that wants something for nothing.
I have owned several trailers and I will say that I would not buy anything other than a Team Spirit. The people at the factory are GREAT. They always go above and beyond to help me. I have also dealt with Fast Track and let me just tell you they were AWESOME. Sounds like a simple I want something for nothing or I will whine and pout like a 2 year old :cry: ... These are just my opinions and not that of the forum they are posted on.

P.S. You might want to use spell check before you make your post :shock:

Tod74 01-14-2008 11:10 AM


Originally Posted by mike2
:roll: Simply amazing another person that want's
P.S. You might want to use spell check before you make your post :shock:

Maybe you should follow your own advice Mr. Wizard. It should be "wants" not "want's" :roll:

gimmemud 01-14-2008 11:41 AM

:oops:

Turbodbuick 01-14-2008 01:42 PM

I am un Happy with my experience with Fastrack & with my 30 ft Team Spirit Trailer. I think both are of very poor quality. I would not recommend them.

Gimmethakick 01-15-2008 06:29 AM

One thing about a trailer is that none of them have the build quality of a BMW. A friend of mine recently purchased a $38,000. Haulmark and I was very disappointed with the fit and finish. From the least expensive to the most expensive the main difference seems to be options as they all have build quality issues. If you want a top of the line immaculate trailer buy a Gold Rush. And please don't slam the dealer because he didn't build it he just sold it. Seems like a case of buyer's remorse.

zipper06 01-15-2008 11:44 AM

It's a good plan to use a good wood sealer on the underside and inside floor of any new trailer purchased (i didn't) :oops: :evil: . It appears that none of the trailer builders use treated plywood, that only cost a few dollars more, and would solve a lot of trailer problem a couple yrs. down the road, especially in the humid/wet parts of the US. I personally am now replacing the drop down door (inside) due to soft/rotting plywood, i expect the floor will go next (28' haulmark) my mistake for being stupid or not realising this in advance. :oops:


Zip.

RonOwensRacing 01-15-2008 01:03 PM

That is a good point to those who dont know zip i cant remember the name of this stuff that they used in my trailer but if I'm not mistaken it has a 10 year warranty on it .
now that you brought it up i will call him and see for sure but i think it was ten years.
after having a lot of trailers and looking at way to many that's what made me decide to have one built the way i wanted and you can go and see it from the ground up witch i did and thought it was a nice option and i could make changes along the way if i wanted to and we did make a few changes .
a lot of trailer sales places do just that they only sale them not make them the same in my business i have people get made at me over some parts that they have trouble with and i help them all i can but i dont make those parts just like the other two big guy's we just sell them .
So i do know where it is easy to get made at the dealer but on the same hand if you are going to sell someones product you need also to stand behind it and get to the mfg and see that they do also.
Once again just my 2 cents worth.

topsportsman1 01-25-2008 07:56 AM

In case Turbodbuick missed it here is your answer.

http://forums.racingjunk.com/viewtopic.php?t=5252


Originally Posted by fastrackat
Read the whole forum before you write Fastrack off. We have tried to offer the best trailers for the price and we pride ourselves in our customer service. It is ashame that one person can make such a fuss over a trailer that he purchased, and he had to use this forum rather than discuss any of this with us. We have not heard from him since he thanked us for working with them and taking the time to install all of the things he purchased extra while they waited. :shock: We have tried repeatedly to call him today and offered to purchase the trailer and all the extras back from him, but he will not talk with us. So give us a chance, we have more satisfied customers than ones that are not.

No need to keep coming back and crying,where are your pictures you said you was going to post up?

The man offered your money back.

The man has been trying to call you but I guess you got "selective answering"

No need for excuses from your family members,that don't cut it here,I don't want to hear it.


Originally Posted by Turbodbuick
Inspected the trailer..found a couple of small flaws ..didn't find all of them..I wanted to inspect it more but it was late, I had my father who is on dialysis with me & he was rushing & complaining..wish I would of took more time or just waited for the trailer to get built I wanted... Not all there fault..some is mine for not inspecting better & I should of just just turned around and walk away from the deal.


You bought it and you chose to fix it,but I guess you bought it on price,because it was the cheapest deal you had got from anyone,you pay for what you get now-a-days.

Turbodbuick,I deleted your post to only bump this topic back to the top,I had gave it some thought as what your purpose here was to do,was to only bash a company that offered your money back.But I am going to say you was haveing "selective reading" here in the forum.

So until then you have no one to blame but yourself here in this deal.

So on your bump here I thought I'd give you the bump myself here maybe you'll read what I posted,but maybe not,it don't matter.

I think all your posts are worthless only to bash a business you have proved nothing no pictures nothing nada.

Next time you do business maybe you'll leave the sick and ailing home...where they belong,thats a pathetic excuse why you was rushed into buying this trailer,get another excuse.

Turbodbuick 01-29-2008 08:57 PM

I am un Happy with my experience with Fastrack & with my 30 ft Team Spirit Trailer. I think both are of very poor quality. I would not recommend them.

topsportsman1 01-29-2008 10:20 PM

NO MORE EXCUSES YOU BOUGHT IT
 

Originally Posted by Turbodbuick

Originally Posted by topsportsman1
In case Turbodbuick missed it here is your answer.

http://forums.racingjunk.com/viewtopic.php?t=5252


Originally Posted by fastrackat
Read the whole forum before you write Fastrack off. We have tried to offer the best trailers for the price and we pride ourselves in our customer service. It is ashame that one person can make such a fuss over a trailer that he purchased, and he had to use this forum rather than discuss any of this with us. We have not heard from him since he thanked us for working with them and taking the time to install all of the things he purchased extra while they waited. :shock: We have tried repeatedly to call him today and offered to purchase the trailer and all the extras back from him, but he will not talk with us. So give us a chance, we have more satisfied customers than ones that are not.

No need to keep coming back and crying,where are your pictures you said you was going to post up?

The man offered your money back.

The man has been trying to call you but I guess you got "selective answering"

No need for excuses from your family members,that don't cut it here,I don't want to hear it.


Originally Posted by Turbodbuick
Inspected the trailer..found a couple of small flaws ..didn't find all of them..I wanted to inspect it more but it was late, I had my father who is on dialysis with me & he was rushing & complaining..wish I would of took more time or just waited for the trailer to get built I wanted... Not all there fault..some is mine for not inspecting better & I should of just just turned around and walk away from the deal.


You bought it and you chose to fix it,but I guess you bought it on price,because it was the cheapest deal you had got from anyone,you pay for what you get now-a-days.

Turbodbuick,I deleted your post to only bump this topic back to the top,I had gave it some thought as what your purpose here was to do,was to only bash a company that offered your money back.But I am going to say you was haveing "selective reading" here in the forum.

So until then you have no one to blame but yourself here in this deal.

So on your bump here I thought I'd give you the bump myself here maybe you'll read what I posted,but maybe not,it don't matter.

I think all your posts are worthless only to bash a business you have proved nothing no pictures nothing nada.

Next time you do business maybe you'll leave the sick and ailing home...where they belong,thats a pathetic excuse why you was rushed into buying this trailer,get another excuse.

*I was never offered any $!!! Or a refund!!! And I never asked for it!!
*They called once and spoke to my father but he said they cut out or hung up..
*This wasn't the best deal but after driving 350 miles to get it, having the bank make the check to them I figured with all the head aches it would be to go threw it again.
*So your telling me it is ok to sell a much less quality product and it is ok?
*I really do give a F@#ck what yoiu think! I'm not bashing I am telling what I experienced with dealing with them. That is what feed back is right?
*And sorry I'm not on the computer day in & day out.. I get on when I can, but don't worry I will check more offen just to make you feel a little better A$$ hole.
* I will go post on the link above also...
* It is BS that if someone posts feed back & wants people to know how they where treated & the quality of the product is, is harassed ...let me guess they put a some coin in your pocket.. thought this was a good sight....starting to see it is politics every where.
* As for rushing cause my father..thats no excuse..the trailer looks fine what you can see @ first glance..it is in the detail & where you can't see..the quality is the WORST I have seen on trailer.. I think If you buy anything for $7k plus you shouldn't have to worry about it....

1 Hey moron,last I checked you bought the trailer,do tell us oh great one,what convinced you of buying?Was it the price?You pay for what you get.

2 Maybe when someone calls you should answer the phone,hasn't your father caused you enough grief over this deal? Do tell us he is hard of hearing,Boys your full of excuses. Tipical moron.

3 350 mile I am amazed,do tell us where your located.There are no trailer sales places closer to you? I forgot,you bought the deal of the week,and went and looked at it with sunglasses on. Another tipical bone head move.Especially when its getting dark.

4 Hey moron you looked at it and bought it. Don't blame us for your short commings. You have again no one to blame but your self.

5 Yes the feed back section has worked fine here in the past,well atleast we have had both partys respond on this issue again,I like that. If you'd stop typing and start reading,by the way Take the sunglasses off son. The man OFFERED you your money back in the thread,But I guess communication is broke on your part,you can't seem to stop crying long enough to read what has been typed. Someone give the boy a tissue.
Maybe you should have called back and took care of this issue instead of airing it out here.
I have seen your type many times in here,FULL of excuse at every turn of the road and its everyones fault.

Now wipe the snot off your nose and grow up,quit acting like a moron.

6 Like I said before pal,take the sunglasses off when you look things over,I know what its like to buy some thing new,but you really need to look with your eyes,Do tell me oh great one,what was you doing when that company had the trailer inside putting ALL those extras on your trailer? Was you playing tiddle winks or jacks with dad? You have come to the wrong place son to bash anyone,after the sale. Only thing I can tell you is you should have come here first before you bought it not after.

7 Maybe if your not capable of dealing on things such as new trailers you should have PAID someone to go with you and guide you next time.But then again The attitude you have a dog wouldn't ride with you.

8 And to answer your question No I don't get a dime from no one I am just telling you how I see it. You came to the forum not only to bash that company but to try and belittle us well you came to the wrong place for that. You came here looking for sympathy but your not getting it from me either.You came for opinions NOW you got mine,just like you got everyone elses.So wipe them tears and snot from your nose son.You made the secision to buy it.

There is no need to reply here,you have no one to blame but your self.
I can tell you one thing you should have picked up the phone and called them instead of comming here to try and give them the big bone treatment,as things do tend to make a full circle sometimes,well most of the time.

I'll highlite that part so you can see the man offered you your money back READ SON

fastrackat wrote:
Read the whole forum before you write Fastrack off. We have tried to offer the best trailers for the price and we pride ourselves in our customer service. It is ashame that one person can make such a fuss over a trailer that he purchased, and he had to use this forum rather than discuss any of this with us. We have not heard from him since he thanked us for working with them and taking the time to install all of the things he purchased extra while they waited. We have tried repeatedly to call him today and offered to purchase the trailer and all the extras back from him, but he will not talk with us. So give us a chance, we have more satisfied customers than ones that are not.


I think the guy that fastrackat went over and above to help you but you just wanted to be a moron,your posts prove that to me.

Peace

Turbodbuick 01-30-2008 04:52 AM

I am un Happy with my experience with Fastrack & with my 30 ft Team Spirit Trailer. I think both are of very poor quality. I would not recommend them.

topsportsman1 01-30-2008 07:04 AM

You only came here to bash and ridicule us,You don't think before you type,I'd be very careful of what you type in your posts as it might get you in trouble, I think the people here see through your rantings,You bought the trailer,you looked at it,and YOU signed the dotted line.

Stop blaming us for your short commings,and no we were not there YOU was SUPPOSIVLY. Now go take your meds

Its morons as yourself that shouldn't be alowed to make a mans decision.

I don't feel bad for you either an in no way am I connected to the trailer sales people I am a neutral person and I am telling YOU how I see it,Your too stupid to pick up the phone to get things made right,you got your money offered back to you,but you chose to come here to bash Fastrackat and members of Racing Junk.

This is a mans site maybe you shouldn't come here to play,cause I won't back down to your childish ways And you can't handle the truth

I am entitled to my opinion as well and your a MORON

Turbodbuick 01-30-2008 07:39 AM

I am un Happy with my experience with Fastrack & with my 30 ft Team Spirit Trailer. I think both are of very poor quality. I would not recommend them.

RonOwensRacing 01-30-2008 07:49 AM

it is apparent the company tried to make it right with you he did offer to buy the trailer and all options back .
he posted that for everyone to see .

And again he dont build the trailers he sells them.

sorry that the two of you could not work it out.

topsportsman1 01-30-2008 08:05 AM


Originally Posted by Turbodbuick
Please show me where I have been offered my $ back back if full, including, gas, taxes, & repairs!!! If they will I will do it today!
With that being said.. I think the monthly $ you recieve from them from having an account is helping you make your decision... I would like to know if your not connected or paid by themhow youare so well informed. I will continue to state my feelings, and from the sounds of it your making it look like your in bed with them. If you look @ a few other people who have posted on here they to staetd that Team Spirit is a CHEAP TRAILER, & they have hads problems also. I shouldn't have to bring something back to get fixed, it should be right from the factory & from the seller! I would rather not bring it to them to get fixed because they abviously can't make a quality product. I would rather fix it myself. I then atleast know it was done right & will be fixed! Why don't you just lock this thread and we can be all done with it.

I'll post it again read this S L O W....Ready?


Originally Posted by fastrackat
Read the whole forum before you write Fastrack off. We have tried to offer the best trailers for the price and we pride ourselves in our customer service. It is ashame that one person can make such a fuss over a trailer that he purchased, and he had to use this forum rather than discuss any of this with us. We have not heard from him since he thanked us for working with them and taking the time to install all of the things he purchased extra while they waited. :shock: We have tried repeatedly to call him today and offered to purchase the trailer and all the extras back from him, but he will not talk with us. So give us a chance, we have more satisfied customers than ones that are not.

Like I said you CAN'T read it is posted,but by YOUR lack of communication and letting your DEAF father handle it this has come to this

So post away wonder boy,and my opinion of you STILL hasn't changed,your still a moron no if's and's or but's
Quit with the excuses your getting lame now

I doubt that company would have any thing to do with you now,I know I wouldn't, but then again retards like yourself are entertainment for the boards,go post in some more forums like you have here,I will garuentee you that the results will be the same if BOTH partys have replyed to the thread. DO YOU UNDERSTAND YET?

Also your a freeloader your looking for another hand out,Hey buddy did your retard check come in the mail yet?

Like I said before I am not affiliated with the trailer sales people nore Racing Junk, I am here to help keep order and run the forum and NO I don't get a check or gratuitys from Racing Junk either,Like I said I am neutral and try to have some what control of the forum,but when retards as yourself come here to piss and moan and ridicule us,be prepared to GET SOME BACK

Turbodbuick 01-30-2008 08:30 AM

More pics to come..will get the roof tomorrow I hope.. please remember these photos do not show how bad the trailer tows & how BAD the brakes are!
quality interior work here
http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m...k/DSC00750.jpg
this gap is with the door latch and after being used once was not like that when picked up & was not miss used
http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m...k/DSC00749.jpg
This is the same door latched & a picture of the gap from the inside
http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m...k/DSC00748.jpg
this gap is getting bigger every time I use the trailer
http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m...k/DSC00746.jpg
These wires where caught on the rear door roller up top
http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m...k/DSC00745.jpg
another view
http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m...k/DSC00744.jpg
many stripped out side screws, lots of burs & poor workman ship
http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m...k/DSC00735.jpg
IMG]http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m5/TurbodBuick/DSC00734.jpg[/IMG]
nice workmanship here
http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m...k/DSC00751.jpg

bigray 01-30-2008 09:06 AM

Heck if there offering to buy it back at full cost with all you done.i would be on the road today.it souds like there trying to make it right.just go get your money back and go on down the road to the next trailer.BUT THIS TIME CHECK IT OUT BEFORE YOU BUY!!!!NOT AFTER YOU GET HOME AND THEN SAY oooooooooop's. i messed up.should have looked closer at the dealer ..well thats a no brainer..

Turbodbuick 01-30-2008 09:17 AM

I am un Happy with my experience with Fastrack & with my 30 ft Team Spirit Trailer. I think both are of very poor quality. I would not recommend them.

fastrackat 01-30-2008 11:06 AM

I just want to make a couple of comments on behalf of Fastrack and Team Spirit. The pictures that he has posted are not of a Team Spirit trailer, each picture can be proven not be from the trailer that he picked up at Fastrack. We went out of our way for this man and his family, entertained his children and provided a private area for his father to take breathing treatments. Our trailer specialist in the garage stayed and worked overtime, without charging the company, to get all the extras that he asked for after arriving and deciding he wanted installed so they could make their trip back home in time. This has gone way past expressing his dissatisfaction, it has become threatening and defamatory. We have recorded 4 attempts to call him, with no answer or attempt to return our calls, we wash our hands of this deal. Thank you to those of you who can look past this and still consider doing business with us.

hammertime 01-30-2008 11:47 AM


Originally Posted by fastrackat
I just want to make a couple of comments on behalf of Fastrack and Team Spirit. The pictures that he has posted are not of a Team Spirit trailer, each picture can be proven not be from the trailer that he picked up at Fastrack. We went out of our way for this man and his family, entertained his children and provided a private area for his father to take breathing treatments. Our trailer specialist in the garage stayed and worked overtime, without charging the company, to get all the extras that he asked for after arriving and deciding he wanted installed so they could make their trip back home in time. This has gone way past expressing his dissatisfaction, it has become threatening and defamatory. We have recorded 4 attempts to call him, with no answer or attempt to return our calls, we wash our hands of this deal. Thank you to those of you who can look past this and still consider doing business with us.


That trailer looks like something the scrap yard put together. I doubt he really got on here and posted pictures of someone elses trailer. On this deal I am on his side, do you really think he wants to answer his phone after all this to talk to you ? Like he said its a done deal he has paid people that know what they are doing to fix it and fix it right so why would be bother with you ? I sure wouldnt seemed like a waste of time the first time. I've seen Team Spirit trailers before and I am not impressed of the low quality of them. If I came to pick up that trailer and it looked like I wouldnt of took it and I will say it is his fault for even taking it !

Turbodbuick 01-30-2008 04:16 PM

I am un Happy with my experience with Fastrack & with my 30 ft Team Spirit Trailer. I think both are of very poor quality. I would not recommend them.

slowmotion 01-30-2008 05:34 PM

My dad has a Team Spirit, Not from fastract but from Proline. It's a very nice trailer for it's price and he has had no problems with it. I may buy one too.

Turbodbuick 01-31-2008 05:11 AM

I am un Happy with my experience with Fastrack & with my 30 ft Team Spirit Trailer. I think both are of very poor quality. I would not recommend them.

Gimmethakick 01-31-2008 09:23 AM

I beg to differ on that one. I've seen lots of trailers be it Haulmark or Pace that have flaws. I've got a 07 Haulmark now that the side door is about to fall off of. All the big volume manufacturers are so concerned with price that quality goes out the window. Some of my friends have Team Spirits and they are doing them a good job. I guess you can get a bad one with any of them.

bigray 01-31-2008 09:52 AM

i know when we went looking for a new trailer.i was shocked at the poor quality.so we bought a 96 dominator classic 32' bumper pull for 5000.00 it was not brand new.it had some drunk bumps and scuffs.but we put maybe 1500.00 more in it.and now have a very nice well built trailer.that i have never had an issue with.so it may be better to buy old. to get better quality.and just fix it up inside..just my 2 cents worth

apinball 01-31-2008 10:40 AM

I have sat here for a few days watching what everyone has to say about Team Spirit Trailers and Fastrack. The ones that have supported TS Trailers and FT thank you.

I cannot believe that this is still going on. WHY in the world are you still going on about this after you and I had a conversation (emailed) about this. Should I post our conversation? Nice thing about your pictures you don't show the whole trailer. The side door where there are gaps - use the barlock - that is what it is there for. The screw you are showing where it is all chipped was not like that. The gap at the bottom of the ramp door fix the door seal that has come loose (it is cold outside the glue and tape have a reaction from the cold - all of it does) The screw with the bit (human oversight). Sorry every human makes a mistake. Now it would be nice if you could more on to something else. If you wanted something perfect don't have a human make it.

Team Spirit Trailers makes a good trailer - trust me I know I sell them. We stand behind our product. But guess what you didn't contact us. Did you? Oh, excuse me - I am wrong you did but several days after you started posting. FT tried to contact you after we found out about the post. You posted all this without even trying to contact anybody. TS Trailer and FT were never given the opportunity to stand behind our product.

Thank you,
Amy
Team Spirit Trailers

lively 01-31-2008 01:14 PM

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: ---that was sweet!!!---KEEP GOING 8) 8) 8)

bigray 01-31-2008 01:24 PM

thats right.cant make it right if you dont give them a chance..


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